Really like the Segments feature in WKO5. Turns out, Iāve done the same loop 136 times since 2014ā¦ fastest times were back in '14 and '15. Challenge accepted! Iām not actually sure how it figured out so fast how many workouts had that segment (a local loop) in it. I have more than a decade of GPS data in thereā¦ anyway, very nice. If Iām getting it right, I think a Segment can be a Range like any other range, with the power of all the analysis tools on that rangeā¦ if so, very interesting.
Also really like the āViewā concept, as a container for Dashboards.
I too had to wait for it to churn through years worth of data until WKO5 became responsive and, well, usable at all. After that, itās quite nice and snappy on my PC. I have some qualms about some of the ui, how the RHE pops in and out while trying to scroll the charts for instance, but overall, very nice - Iāll be upgrading 
Found this on YouTube. Quick demo of the new ui.
@TimWKO How do we upgrade from wko4. Sorry did not see here and I am not on Facebook.
You will get an email shortly with a discount code (assuming you purchased WKO4). Thanks!
@therman here is what I did:
- Backup WKO4 data directory
- Install WKO5 and choose the option to share data directory between WKO4 and WKO5
- After installing you will have both WKO4 and WKO5, only one can be launched at a time
- Launch WKO5, select Past Workouts in Right Hand Explorer (RHE), and then leave it alone for a few hours
- After letting WKO5 process all your previous workouts, which may take some time, then you can start playing with it. Remember, donāt launch WKO4 at the same time as WKO5 is running
@bbarrera Great, this seems to be working as indicated, thanks!
@TimWKO This was the last piece I was missing, thank you!
WKO5 is launched!!! Live webinar will be held tonight (8pm EST/5pm PST).
Up until now users have had to choose between easy to use with basic analytics (e.g. TR analytics and TP online) and feature rich data analytics, but difficult to learn (TPās WKO4). WKO5 is breaking down that barrier! For cyclists who are very serious about their training and have progressed beyond the basics (new to power meters, new to structured training), the insights into your training, and subsequent knowledge you gain to further tune your training to the performance requirements specific to the events you are training for, canāt be beat with WKO4. There are literally 100s of TR posts, such as where users are asking questions or responding to others about performance or ease/difficulty of specific types of intervals (e.g. sweet spot vs VO2max), that could be answered or at minimally substantial insight gained, with from the analytics available in WK04 and now WKO5.
IMO: The most awesome training combination will soon become:
TP WKO5 + TR workouts with TR WorkoutCreator V2 (waiting for @Nate_Pearson announcement )
Webinar Registration:
https://register.gotowebinar.com/rt/9087195722893122317
ps. For those interested but canāt make the webinar, as in the past I presume it will be available on YouTube and the WKO5 website www.wko5.com
pps. Thanks to @TimWKO and the TP team for making this product happen!
The short answer to your question is that all of the WKO4/5 data is post workout analysis. āIt would be niceā, for example, if dFRC were available real time both for races/rides as you mention, as well as for indoor or outdoor FRC/VO2/NM workouts.
XERT (and directionally where TR seems to be heading via its AI initiative) has a very different approach - to take the requirement for knowledge out of your hands and guide you as to was is best for you. Thereās pluses/minuses of both the TP/WKO approach vs the XERT/TR directional approach and much depends on your experience, goals, time available, interest in understanding, etc.
Did you get a consulting gig in marketing for TP/WKO?! LOL. Seriously that is a bit over-the-top, while I love doing data deep-dives in WKO (versions 4 and 5), it takes some education and skill to use the data. Donāt think wko5 is a big leap in making analytics more accessible, and you seem to concede that point in your XERT vs WKO answer above.
That aside, if you like doing data deep dives then WKO has best-in-class modeling. And it helps to bring a technical background and dedicate a fair chunk of time to learning how to get the most out of it. Personally I had no problem paying for WKO4, but it took time to master.
This is an answer from a high-level where both Xert and WKO have good data. Here is a one-hour time trial effort in Xert:
and same effort in WKO5:
Without spending a lot of time trying to figure out the differences, it seems the main differences are due to Xert having High Intensity Energy modeled at ~25kJ while WKO5 has dFRC modeled at 14kJ - in other words Xert appears to have modeled a ābigger batteryā that takes longer to deplete.
Donāt have a clue if HIE and dFRC are the same or different. What seems obvious, focusing on the first dip around 15 minutes into workout, is that WKOās 14kJ is consumed faster on that 370W 1-minute effort than in Xert. That appears to be a result of Xert having 78% more anaerobic capacity, but again I donāt know if HIE and dFRC can be considered synonymous. So I might be wrong, and someone will come along and correct me.
The rider was me, and I donāt see any depletion as dFRC never drops below 4.8 or 5 kJ. The clearing effort around 17 minutes into the ride was 370W / 1-minute push over a bridge.
The WKO graph seems more accurate to what I was feeling.
Hi @TimWKO If I havenāt gotten the e-mail, is there an address I can write to to check what happened?
Let off, was past the turn-around point and pretty happy with the lap data which unfortunately included a stop at a traffic light around 15:00 minute mark.
From the posts and comments during webinars that Tim has made over the years, he implied that they could easily break Xertās model and that FRC reconstitution hadnāt been solved yet.
Iām holding out to listen to the webinars to learn more about it and see what dFRC is based on, but letās just say that Iāll remain skeptical given the research Iāve seen.
If they have a physiologically validated model for reconstitution of anaerobic work capacity, that would truly be a significant breakthrough.
let me know what you learn, I canāt attend and probably wonāt have a chance to watch replay for at least a month
It appears to be heavily influenced by Skibaās Wā model to the point where they credit him in the explanation, so I donāt expect something dramatically different: WKO dFRC Explained
thx. Looked briefly at some TIS scores, for the 2 hour ride above I scored a 10 anaerobic and 8 aerobic Training Impact Score in WKO5
Emails starting going out today, should be soon.
Tim Cusick
Velocious Cycling Adventures
TrainingPeaks WKO4
717.515.5382
Thanks for the kind words! We are big fans of Trainerroad and love the program (and the podcasts)!
How about emails for those of us still using WKO 3.0+ on Windows XP ?
Canāt hurt to askā¦