KOM Training, Increasing Training Volume, Morning Training and More – Ask a Cycling Coach 292

One thing that was missed in the nutrition discussion is that there is something amazing about burning a ton of calories during a ride and using that to ‘treat myself’ with some haribo, snickers bars etc (which is something I don’t do at other times) during the ride and having a huge reward meal afterwards that includes foods that I wouldn’t normally choose (fries, pancakes, etc). Waaay tastier than a recovery shake and I can still get protein and lots of carbs in.

Ok, I probably underfuel some rides but Large quantities of maltodextrin during workouts followed by healthy choices doesn’t sound like as much fun. it’s these kinds of food rewards that keep many amateurs training for 6-12hrs a week when there is no pro contract on the line

Maybe not the healthiest attitude to food and of course it’s all a balance but my post big workout treat meal(S) knowing that I have created a big deficit keep me putting in the hard work day after day

To be honest I turned off the podcast out of disgust when I heard that. If there’s ANY group that needs to be teased it’s old fart white cyclists.

For a group that brags about their “suffering” and routinely tell each other to HTFU, cyclists sure are pansies.

We look absolutely stupid in our clothes and “kit” riding bikes and equipment worth more than half the worlds lifetime earnings and we can’t take some good natured ribbing?

Won the genetic lottery but we can’t have someone talk shit? Don’t ever step foot on a basketball court you’ll be crying before you get your Jordan’s laced up.

Apologize? Lame.

I’ll go back, skip the intro, and finish this one later.

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Did you run them all with power, a la Pinkbike’s ‘efficiency test’? Just curious more than anything. Hard to argue with the stopwatch. A mate of mine bought the previous generation Epic a couple of months before the new one came out. He sort of wishes he’d waited… but he also saved a fair wad of cash.

Loved your insights into the new bike choice, thanks for going through that in detail!

You didn’t say much about the Pivot – how did it fare, likes/dislikes?

Keep up the great work and thanks!

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Good podcast. I appreciate the balance of fun/shit talking and the science. Don’t stop having fun! As a 53 year old guy, I’m firmly in the masters group and can take some good hearted ribbing (you just have to speak up so I can hear you).

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Ok, but trainerroad always talk about it never follows the science, and you should always get your carbs from starch.

(Sarcasm alert)

Edit: Bananas 101: Nutrition Facts and Health Benefits

Came here assuming someone had pointed this out, amazed no-one has. In the UK, hill climbs are a thing. The whole event is ‘go full gas up a short hill’. All the talk of pacing before getting to the hill, being efficient drafting to save energy etc is all good info (and has been discussed before) but entirely missed answering the guy’s question on how to train for/pace the UK hill climbing season. I’ve never done one and suck at climbing, so hopefully someone can give some helpful input and the question asker will find it!

http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/508/cycling/hill-climbs/index.html

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I’ve had trouble sleeping ever since I found out. :slightly_frowning_face:

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They have had questions about U.K. hill climb races before so the masters team are aware of them.

Thanks for another great show and for answering my question. Makes sense that intensity might be more important than duration for fueling shorter workouts.

Yes, was also hoping that the forum post would have the images and further details of all the mobility exercises mentioned in the podcast. Are these somehwhere else?

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This is what I was looking for as well.

Also wanted to say that it seems that there was two announcements coming, one from where John didn’t want to tell anything more when talking about chads response to training plan progression and then this let down… :sweat_smile:

yes, the point is that the podcast didn’t address the actual question (again) - it’s not a rolling road race with climbs in it … it’s just a horrific climb

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They’re on the youtube video feed of the podcast. I actually tried the two stretches that Pete suggested and (go figure) they made a noticeable difference.

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I like to rely on this study. Or rather, the headline associated with this study. Of course, lots of things are better at re-hydrating after exercise than plain water, but shhh. And no, I haven’t looked at the study details, methodology, etc, because why would I want to risk ruining a beautiful thing? It’s Better to Drink Beer After Exercise Than Water - Health & Fitness Tips (clevelandleader.com)

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Don’t think there is any denying it can work, but the focus as of late has been performance. If you’re goals are body comp rather than training/racing, probably not target demographic. More people need to focus on power rather than weight. In fact, i would say until you get to the point power stops increasing, you have no business trying to lose weight at all.

I’ve said this before, but i used to focus on weight, and got down to about 64kg, and FTP wouldn’t increase much beyond 320 or so despite a lot of training. Started eating more carbs, weight increased about 4kg, but FTP went up to 350 ish. Similar climbing ability, better everything else ability. In that time, my 1min power went up by 100W too.

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Got as far as the KOM training. There’s a few things after the effects of alcohol I’m interested in hearing, but now I’m conflicted :smiley: :beers:

Would love to see you at Flanders\Roubaix. Have done 6 Flanders and 5 PR’s now, although still waiting on refund from last year and very much doubt the sportive will happen in ‘21 for either as well​:frowning:. Yes, Amber Flanders cobbles knock you around but only really the end of the Kwaremont and a couple of the longer sections (Padestraat). I did the first Flanders thinking Roubaix can’t be that much worse… then when I did my first Roubaix I hit the first section and though “what the **** have I let myself in for here?:scream:”… Roubaix is just something else, and doesn’t even “start” until you’re through the Arenberg. It’s a ride you either “love” or “hate” and even when you “love” it’s still one you find intimidates the closer to the date it gets…as a 56 year old rider whose ridden/raced/tt’d/mtb’d/etc for the best part of 25 years it’s still the only ride that really - really! - excites and scares me at the same time.

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@Jonathan From the testing talk I’m guessing you have a lot of private Strava rides. I moved to Reno back in September, I’ve been following you, @Nate_Pearson , Pete, @chad , ect on Strava… partly to find good trails. Please make some more these sweet local trail action public, I want to ride all the sweet trails in Reno/Tahoe. I.E. where the heck is Robinhood, don’t see it on trailforks?

May not cover all your needs, but these apps can be helpful:

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