Good deal. Have fun and I hope the data is useful. Happy training. 
Does anyone else see pizza on the title of this post?
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Super excited to get TR workouts downloaded on my Garmin in a simple manner. Waiting on the edge of my saddle for that day 
This is fricking awesome. I was about start switching a couple of rides a week from Sustained Power Mid Volume over to outdoor rides and this will work perfectly into the improving weather. I canāt wait for export of the profiles to Wahoo head units 
Iām a very happy boy and this is a fantastic addition to an already awesome product.
The outdoor TR rides look very similar in format to the run workouts in the Tri plansā¦ any plan to get run workouts pushed to Garmin too?
Please reconsider. Or address the issue on the podcast. It might not seem like a big thing to you or others that have similar power indoors as outdoors. But it is to me and I assume to any climber/slow twitch fiber guy here.
I just did an FTP test indoors on Thursday, almost killed myself while doing it and tested 273 W. That left me with 293 W for intervals on Red Lake (5 x 6 min @ 108 % FTP) today and the lactic burn was very real. But I did outdoors uphill:
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Tuesday 5 x 9 min @ 280-294 W no problem
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Sunday 16 min @ 314 W
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Friday two weeks ago 33 min @ 302 W
If I didnāt adjust my FTP for every out/indoor change my CTL/ATL are way off. For example I would have had a 2000 TSS from the second week of the training camp (while it was around 1500 TSS after adjustment).
I have found something similar with doing hard intervals inside. I forgot to recalibrate my kickr for a while (week or two) and the workouts were feeling too easy. Then I was like, āoh no shitā. Calibrated with the wahoo app for the kickr then did one with TR. Noticed my belt was pretty loose. Tightened. Recalibrated. Did Mitchell. Almost died.
Iām not sure whatās up. I may do todayās workout (junction) on the rollers with my power meter and see how it feels. I also feel my kickr is about to bite the dust. Has a clicking noise that started the other day.
I feel my outside FTP is a good 15-20 watts higher. But I havenāt tested outside in a while. Waiting on the weather. Most likely due to the calibration or not enough fans for cooling. Should be about equal
FTP differences outdoors to indoors is usually due to not having sufficient cooling indoors. You donāt magically gain power by riding outside.
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I disagree. Cooling is an issue thatās true. Though I have big fan and am not sweating all that much. But riding up the hill you donāt get that much of a breeze and the same power thatās very difficult inside seems much more managable.
At least part of the difference is certainly caused by the gradient because my numbers on the flats are somewhere inbetween.
That is very good point. I have found some hotels have no power meters at all. As you say I could switch to outside mode.
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Not sure how I missed this. I will have to wait until Friday no to test this. Very excited about this release. @Nate_Pearson top job. Please thank the team.
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Tried it out this morningā¦
PROs:
- Most productive outdoor ride, that wasnāt a race, in a long time.
- Got to practice keeping power down as I changed direction relative to the wind.
- It was a beautiful morning and I got some heat acclimatization done!
CONs:
- Tedious to load into my Garmin. I created a workout in Garmin Connect off the one TrainerRoad assigned.
- It was a threshold workout and with the strong winds and changing directions relative to them it was hard to keep power on target. Probably no harder than sweet spot rides outside from now on.
- My ride didnāt load right when I was done. Maybe I did something wrong? It auto loaded from Strava how it always does, but the indoor workout was still on today in the calendar also.
Conclusion: Lots of potential, but still a work in progress Iād say. Keep up the great work Fellas!
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I like the idea that there will be a head unit integration. I donāt trust myself to put the phone on the handle bars.
This will come in very handy for our annual Switzerland summer trip.
Now, I need to get a Garmin. Any recommendations?
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So far, what youāre saying is that you have:
- an indoor FTP
- an outdoor on the flats FTP
- an outdoor climbing FTP
Did I miss any?
Regarding point 1, I hope youāll decide to allow the indoor (and custom) workouts to be pushed to Edge units as well. I personally prefer to look down at my Edge whether on the road or the trainer, rather than at the TR interface. This way what Iām looking at device-wise is consistent indoors and outdoors.
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A hill is a different kettle of fish. Go ride as hard as you can on a flat road and use average power not NP and see how things pan out.
I talked to a hardware manufacturer today at Sea Otter and they werenāt quite as vague as Nate 
Edit: I see later in the thread the catās already out of the bag with Garmin and Wahoo. Great work TR crew! The last 12 months of feature releases have been really, really impressive. Youāre crushing it.
What can I say? Itās the same with the bikes, I always need another one But you havenāt missed any, I donāt have a Kickr Climb yet.
@Harts Thatās the point, really. I am a better climber than anything else and trying to focus on that. Nearly all of my outdoor workout intervals are executed on a climb because specificity matters. My FTP on the flats is certainly lower (as noted above) but Iām not too worried about that because I do only lower intensity there hence the error caused by the difference is not that much of a concern.
Is there a date for when the outside rides exported to a head unit will be available? Iām struggling to actually find this in this thread now itās so huge.
Hi, thereās another thread about head unit integration. āGarmin training apiā donāt know to put a link up sorry.
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