I don’t think even the TR “Outdoor” Workouts are covered quite yet.
I did a TR outdoor ride last weekend (a few days before being added). I am awful at “hitting” the recovery valleys, but felt like I basically hit the targets for the work sessions.
The view is a little weird, it doesn’t note a result (Success, Struggle, etc…) but still notes the original measurement:
On the iOS app it shows the ride being associated with my planned workout, although I’m not seeing any notion of an association (or ability to do so) on the web.
I’d hope in the future such a ride would count, even merely based on some time in zone metrics. I think they have mentioned Outdoor TR Rides being worked and unstructured non-TR rides being also of interest but probably further out.
Edited to add:
Maybe I take this back partially… looking at my ride it was supposed to be Tallac +2. This ride is showing a Breakthrough SS for me at 6.5.
I did it with a different PM (which in past testing is ~5% lower than my usual TR indoor PM). I felt I hit the workout well, but in reality I may have been a touch under the expected SS zone so it rated my effort at a 3.9 and thus no progression changes?
Given I don’t see a success / fail, I am slightly unsure what it did here
We had a bug around manual FTP changes that was recently fixed. I went ahead and re-backfilled your progression level history, so things should be showing up properly now.
Thanks Brandon - as most of my training has been unstructured or my own workouts for the past couple of months the suggested workouts are unsurprisingly low. Will see how I get on over the next week as the AI adjusts the workouts to suit. Looking forward to it!
@GeorgeAnderson is correct that is where I was coming from. To me doesnt seem a very productive way to use 90 minutes, at 60% - 65% yes. I always add as much time as I can before and/or after intervals. Anyway, apologies my comment was off topic.
Yeah, I was going off previous mentions in the thread that outside structured TR workouts are still processed by AT. I did an outdoor one last week (Kaweah T 4.8), and the level I hit was the same as the workout target level of 4.8, but there wasn’t much else to go on from that. I’m holding my judgement on it until I can do an outdoor one now that I have access. Will compare it to previous outdoor workouts I’ve done and see if there are any differences in how they appear to be used or displayed (I’m thinking there probably won’t be differences for what it’s worth).
While adaptive training looks super cool, is waiting a but really going to make that much of a difference in your life, or even your training over the short (relatively at least) period you have to wait. It’s not like you can’t train in the meantime, or that your training now isn’t productive. Hell ever since they announced it, I’ve been way more consistent just because now I know the AI is watching me, judging me…
Got a question. Between Adaptive Training and TrainNow. Im correct by thinking the AT will only work if you’re folowing a TR training plan integrating youre outdoor rides and in other apps and misses and failures on the plan adapting the future trainings while TN only works has training sugestions for those not using a plan and not taking in consideration all the work done even if its outside or on other apps?
If this is correct I wont be using much either One soon. I would love a TN suggestion for a certain day i feel like doing a TR workout but only if it considers what i’ve been doing elsewhere. For instance doesnt feel logical to get the 3 type suggestions by TN the day after of having raced on another APP doing a all out effort. Also if TN considers the background that it would make it much more interesting could it also account the future events if we have them in the calendar?
I’de already read a substantial part of the posts on that thread. Your summary helped a lot. Thanks.
Im at the point now of evaluating the need to renew my yearly subscription once I only have been using it ocasionaly and only having a TN suggestion taking in consideration all my rides structured or not outside or on other apps would make an excelent point to keep on subscribing.
I haven’t read all the posts so forgive me if this has already been answered. If I have been doing more volume or intensity than the plan calls for, for whatever reason, will AT recommend a rest day or recovery ride that otherwise was not in the plan?
Adaptive Training is amazing, thank you. I have a lot more confidence to train.
I was coming off a couple of big bumps from sweet spot base I and II (218 to 259) so I knew that build would be a problem. I tried to hang on but after a week I had to reset back to sweet spot base. It was nice to see achievable and progressive workouts at the end of the base block, breakthrough workouts with the big bump into build, and then the reset back to achievable. Hopefully adaptable training will move me up the progressions again quickly.
You certainly are, and I’m also entitled to think your reasons for being dissatisfied are unreasonable. He is getting the access because TR is using it as a marketing opportunity. Pretty sure he isn’t even paying a subscription either. Oh well, I think it’s fair for them use it as an opportunity to show their upcoming features to Norcal Cyclings subs, who are tightly aligned with their target demo.
Once both of those are complete, you should be getting the ride surveys for completed TR workouts, and possibly the TR outside workouts linked to completed ones imported (but I am not totally sure on that one).
