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Did you change your FTP manually? This happened to me after I did a 20 minute test outdoors and changed my threshold value. TR saw this as a manual change unrelated to a test and set all my progressions to 4 which is the default value.

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My guess is that a majority of that is newbie gains. Coming off of the couch, anything (even unstructured riding) would have produced some results. AT almost certainly helped, but it wasn’t all of it.

Yes I have done a race series on Zwift and did a Tempis Fugit TT (which I was really happy with as my 95% 20 minute power gave me 294w FTP which correlated with my ramp test at 293w) so bumped it from that. Will see what happens after my workout tomorrow which is a 4.2 threshold workout and see what happens from there once I start providing some feedback to the system.

Your levels should change going forward then and as far as I’m aware the plan moving forward is that other ways of threshold assessment or manual changes shouldn’t mean reverting to the default levels each time.

How did AT take into account the Zwift race? I am planning on doing LV TrainerRoad but substituting one workout with a Zwift ZRL series 3 race.

It doesn’t currently but I am doing similar to you with the Thursday Team Time Trial. During lockdown this has been a great way to keep the social aspect of cycling going for me personally.

I also plan to use TrainNow on other days to add some volume where appropriate.

I’m looking forward to AT, can’t wait to be finally unlocked.
It’s almost like before the first date with my girlfriend :joy:

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Looks like workout levels are not the same between platform. As an example I can give Red Slate -4 Threshold 4.8 on web and on MacOS app is Threshold 5.4. Almost all my workouts for next 3 weeks have this issue.

That’s a shame then as I assume the AI only thinks you are doing 2 training efforts a week?

That’s a shame then as I assume the AI only thinks you are doing 2 training efforts a week?

It will be 3 as do the long one on a Saturday plus 2 in the week plus the Zwift race.

That does sound quite odd. I only have iOS and web to compare but I haven’t noticed a difference so far. Honestly I haven’t been critical enough to compare many between them either.

For what it’s worth both of mine show Red Slate -4 at Threshold 4.8 as well.

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From what I’ve been told the web is the correct rating for the workout so use that as the basis of choosing workouts

Does AT adjust your levels for multiple systems based on a single workout?

As an example, the workout below is 4x6 minutes at 106% FTP and then 90 minutes at 65% of FTP. I’m curious if this would impact both my VO2 and endurance levels?

I assume it would, but may have missed any posts where this was confirmed/explained

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I wouldn’t think it would. For example, Brasstown, which I have on the docket for today, is rated 5.2, and I’m currently a 7.3 on endurance. So unless your endurance level is really low I wouldn’t think 90mins at 50% would move the needle.

Weird. I just looked at that workout in both places for me and it was the same level. I’d recommend sending an email with screenshots to support@trainerroad.com to report it as a bug. I did that with some things I found and they were pretty quick to respond.

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I’m with you - I think most of us would be faster if we were better at going slow!

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I am not in AT yet but if you recorded your ride to your Garmin/wahoo would it make a difference and count it?

Or maybe not as “outside” regular rides are not counted.

If it was a scheduled outdoor workout, I believe it is supposed to work with AT. It won’t work yet for rides that do not have structure because there isn’t a known goal for those. I’ll be doing some outdoor workouts this weekend, so I’ll update my AT experience in this thread to give a more accurate picture of it all. I suspect I won’t see much or any changes in progression levels, however, as both workouts are in the achievable and productive difficulty categories.

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Did you just change your FTP / do a ramp test? TR mentioned to beta testers that they were planning on setting levels to 4.0 after a FTP change.

If you didn’t change your FTP / do a ramp test recently, please submit this to TR support as it is probably a bug.

At the moment, only TR workouts done outside count for your progression levels. Though TR is working to be able to classify and count “free” outside rides.

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