Your levels should change going forward then and as far as I’m aware the plan moving forward is that other ways of threshold assessment or manual changes shouldn’t mean reverting to the default levels each time.
How did AT take into account the Zwift race? I am planning on doing LV TrainerRoad but substituting one workout with a Zwift ZRL series 3 race.
It doesn’t currently but I am doing similar to you with the Thursday Team Time Trial. During lockdown this has been a great way to keep the social aspect of cycling going for me personally.
I also plan to use TrainNow on other days to add some volume where appropriate.
I’m looking forward to AT, can’t wait to be finally unlocked.
It’s almost like before the first date with my girlfriend
Looks like workout levels are not the same between platform. As an example I can give Red Slate -4 Threshold 4.8 on web and on MacOS app is Threshold 5.4. Almost all my workouts for next 3 weeks have this issue.
That’s a shame then as I assume the AI only thinks you are doing 2 training efforts a week?
That’s a shame then as I assume the AI only thinks you are doing 2 training efforts a week?
It will be 3 as do the long one on a Saturday plus 2 in the week plus the Zwift race.
That does sound quite odd. I only have iOS and web to compare but I haven’t noticed a difference so far. Honestly I haven’t been critical enough to compare many between them either.
For what it’s worth both of mine show Red Slate -4 at Threshold 4.8 as well.
From what I’ve been told the web is the correct rating for the workout so use that as the basis of choosing workouts
Does AT adjust your levels for multiple systems based on a single workout?
As an example, the workout below is 4x6 minutes at 106% FTP and then 90 minutes at 65% of FTP. I’m curious if this would impact both my VO2 and endurance levels?
I assume it would, but may have missed any posts where this was confirmed/explained
I wouldn’t think it would. For example, Brasstown, which I have on the docket for today, is rated 5.2, and I’m currently a 7.3 on endurance. So unless your endurance level is really low I wouldn’t think 90mins at 50% would move the needle.
Weird. I just looked at that workout in both places for me and it was the same level. I’d recommend sending an email with screenshots to support@trainerroad.com to report it as a bug. I did that with some things I found and they were pretty quick to respond.
I’m with you - I think most of us would be faster if we were better at going slow!
I am not in AT yet but if you recorded your ride to your Garmin/wahoo would it make a difference and count it?
Or maybe not as “outside” regular rides are not counted.
If it was a scheduled outdoor workout, I believe it is supposed to work with AT. It won’t work yet for rides that do not have structure because there isn’t a known goal for those. I’ll be doing some outdoor workouts this weekend, so I’ll update my AT experience in this thread to give a more accurate picture of it all. I suspect I won’t see much or any changes in progression levels, however, as both workouts are in the achievable and productive difficulty categories.
Did you just change your FTP / do a ramp test? TR mentioned to beta testers that they were planning on setting levels to 4.0 after a FTP change.
If you didn’t change your FTP / do a ramp test recently, please submit this to TR support as it is probably a bug.
At the moment, only TR workouts done outside count for your progression levels. Though TR is working to be able to classify and count “free” outside rides.
I don’t think even the TR “Outdoor” Workouts are covered quite yet.
I did a TR outdoor ride last weekend (a few days before being added). I am awful at “hitting” the recovery valleys, but felt like I basically hit the targets for the work sessions.
The view is a little weird, it doesn’t note a result (Success, Struggle, etc…) but still notes the original measurement:
On the iOS app it shows the ride being associated with my planned workout, although I’m not seeing any notion of an association (or ability to do so) on the web.
I’d hope in the future such a ride would count, even merely based on some time in zone metrics. I think they have mentioned Outdoor TR Rides being worked and unstructured non-TR rides being also of interest but probably further out.
Edited to add:
Maybe I take this back partially… looking at my ride it was supposed to be Tallac +2. This ride is showing a Breakthrough SS for me at 6.5.
I did it with a different PM (which in past testing is ~5% lower than my usual TR indoor PM). I felt I hit the workout well, but in reality I may have been a touch under the expected SS zone so it rated my effort at a 3.9 and thus no progression changes?
Given I don’t see a success / fail, I am slightly unsure what it did here
We had a bug around manual FTP changes that was recently fixed. I went ahead and re-backfilled your progression level history, so things should be showing up properly now.
Good question but 90m at 50% whats that all about?