I’ve been in the beta for a couple of weeks, but it happened to coincide with a taper week and recovery week, so nothing has really happened until today. Just before my ramp test today, my VO2 got upped from 5.1 to 5.4, no biggie, I know that’s a strength and I’m cool with that. I then did the ramp test, and ended up 1 watt higher. Basically a rounding error, yet it’s dropped everything quite a bit, including VO2 to 4.1. This seems excessive for an FTP change of less than half a percent?
I’ll leave it as I’m sure it’ll quickly go back up, but would have thought for an FTP change that small, nothing would change.
Long ago I had a similar experience and set of comments. Seems there still is a fairly extreme drop in PL’s from any FTP change.
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Ah yes. Thank you, and I agree with all your points in your previous post. I was already a little bummed that I only got a single watt (let’s call it a rounding error) and to then also see all those progression levels hit the floor was an extra kick in the teeth.
I’ll slap in alternatives that I think are closer to what I think they should be and go from there. Thanks!
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Regardless, double-checking with the team about this. 
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Does the PL drop happen if your FTP changes at all, or, only if you complete the ramp test?
If I were to complete the ramp test and not accept the result and then manually change my FTP would my PL levels all drop?
I don’t have to worry about it for a few weeks - I avoided the last ramp as I knew it was an issue. But I’m not sure that’s sustainable tactic going forward 
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Based on what others have said I’m this thread, manual adjustment does result in PLs being adjusted down, even with small or minor changes in FTP.
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Thanks @BCrossen. There goes that idea so.
Hopefully it’ll be sorted before I need to ramp again 
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Following up on this! There’s an identified issue with decay rate and rest surrounding Progression Levels, for which the fix is in the queue to be released! Nearly there, but until then, take those big plunges in PLs with a grain of salt for the time being. Refining all of this will take some work, thanks for everyone’s feedback and contribution in helping us do so!
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hmm…
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Think I’m going to trust improvements in my power curve!!!
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If I complete an structured outside workout and it doesn’t associate with my scheduled workout (end up with two versions). Can I just match them to merge them? Or is that a terrible idea?
Yes, if you did an outdoor TR workout and it didn’t associate property, associating manually it is the appropriate way to correct that problem.
Cheers @BCrossen. Between yourself, @mcneese.chad and a few others you are a great help in navigating AT. Support have been great as well I have to say.
I seem to have hit a bug unfortunately so AT can’t give me credit for my PL. It may have had something to do with me attacking climbs a wee bit in the last few intervals . My average power might have stayed in the target zone but let’s just say it was a bit on the spikey side 
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AT just suggested much lower weekend workouts for me for no apparent reason. I’m assuming it’s wanting me to rest, but it happened after I completed an easy Z1 workout this morning. I’ve had no trouble with completing any of the workouts.
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I’m getting the feeling from people’s comments / questions on adaptation and PL ramp rates that this now has the same “problem” as TSS ramp rate: what is the appropriate mix of the following workouts:
- Achievable
- Productive
- Stretch
Same with: what PL for Sweet Spot / Threshold should I be able to do if my FTP is set correctly?
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Keep in mind that Wahoo Outdoor workouts won’t be giving you credit (although you can answer surveys). Garmin is supposed to be working, although I don’t have a Garmin head unit and cannot confirm it first-hand.
As of a few hours ago support confirmed that structured outdoors workouts on Garmin are still being failed and giving no pl increases, even when when one responds “I didn’t struggle” and completed the regular survey. They are actively working on it.
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I’m using a Garmin 530. It’s mostly going well. My PLs have adjusted correctly for 2 out of 3 of my outdoor workouts. Indoor workouts have all been fine.
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