Has anyone been able to actually add them to cart? I keep getting an error message in Italian popping up when I hit “add to cart”
I wonder if they will be interested in providing other spindle-based products to support things like the mountain bike pedals.
Are Shimano SPD pedals for example, on a different spindle than SL? Maybe they’re not the same, but are they cross compatible? Seems like XPEDO has some cross-compatability with their road and MTB bodies both working on the original Favero spindles
Why anyone would change their bike fit and potentially introduce issues just to snap into SPD-SL is beyond me. It’s not something I’ll be doing. Sure MTB/gravel/etc have wider stance, but they are other bikes with different geometry. They’re ridden differently.
Having these on my road bikes wasn’t to my liking at all. I’m sure others would find the same if they installed 13mm spacers on each side on their road bikes, for no good reason.
Asking riders to ride a 26mm wider stance-width is a work-around for this design that’s 100% on the rider to ‘deal with’. That’s shit. imo.
These had the potential to be the 10/10 go-go meter for a few years to come. I expected Favero to deliver a better product. My feedback 12 months ago was acknowledged and ignored. Favero went the easy route with a new oil-cap (o-ring), small metal sleeve, and called it a new product.
I love the Assioma DUO… but these? Not impressed.
Pretty disappointing considering the excitement everyone had. On the LOOK/XPEDO cleat aspect, I’ve gotten used to them LONG ago. Sure the supplied XPEDO cleats are a bit slick on some surfaces, which could be remedied by using LOOK GRIP cleats, but I’ll take more careful walking (rarely have to walk on surfaces where they are not grippy) over potential issues with cleats coming out during pedaling.
In general, I’ve got no burning desire to go back to SL cleats, I don’t find their advantages or any disadvantages of the XPEDO apparent or relevant for my use.
Just listening to the DC Rainmaker view on it and he seems to be more relaxed about it
I used spd-sl previously and I personally hadn’t noticed any big change in going to the assioma and look style, I definitely feel no big urge to go shimano. Of course I’m not going to discount any reasons why one would prefer spd-sl. It is too bad the Q factor wasn’t considered more carefully, so I think Shane’s and others’ concern is super valid
My big issue is:
I have 2 road bikes, they both have SPD-SL right now. The exact position of my cleats was set by my bike fitter so when I need to replace them I can just trace them and get an identical position.
If I were to install the normal duos, I’d have to put new pedals on the other road bike as well and change the cleats on my shoes. It’s really annoying that this isn’t a clean 1:1 replacement for the shimano pedals, but it’s still probably the most seamless solution out there…
Yeah, to me it’s a wash for anyone who uses different bike types (or heck, even an indoor smart bike - which all have wider stances). If you have a MTB bike, then it’s more than this is, and folks swap back and forth without concern.
Certainly, if someone has only ever ridden a given q-factor, then it might take a ride or two to feel ‘normal’, just like any other bike. But for me, it’s just a non-issue.
No worries though, while @GPLAMA and I agree on lots of things, we don’t always agree on everything. For starters, his countryman eat Vegemite. Talk about a non-starter.
I went from Speedplay to the Assiomas, and I didn’t die either (even if the stack is quite a bit taller). I switched to Keo Grip cleats, they are at the same time better (less slippery to walk, less drag in float, you can get cleat covers for them) and worse (clip-in is not very crisp, needs a lot of pressure, although that seems to improve as the cleats wear a bit). I wouldn’t trade this setup for an SPD-SL one.
XPEDO cleats are slippery on polished wood and tile (coffee shop floors?) and nylon decking used to build some bridge walkways here. On pavement (asphalt, concrete, etc) and regular wood boards, they are not slippery. I don’t do a ton of walking in mine so it’s never been a concern, just an excuse to walk purposely goofy in front of friends
I am using Keo Grip cleats with the older Favero be pro S. The Keo Grips are marginally wider than Xpedo at the back and you need them down slightly. The PM is on my TT bike though so they don’t wear out fast , it be more of a pain on an everyday bike
I think it also depends on your physiology. For me, I am slightly toe-out (duck footed). So it would be nice to have the extra room so my heel doesn’t hit the crank arm. Perhaps knock-kneed people feel the opposite and will have issues.
I have been waiting forever for a Shimano power meter pedal. Keo’s don’t work for me as they always squeak. Plus, I love being able to walk w/o feeling like I am on an ice rink.
The price for the DUO-shi pedals in Denmark is €620,00. I am not doing a stance experiment with that amount of money.
I was going to buy them but feel the same plus I have a 4iiii left crank that works fine. Recently I went back to Shimano spd-sl as I was tired of the speedplay and the oil needed to get them to stop squeaking.
The squeaking sound was my audio power meter before I got the Assiomas. The harder you push, the more they squeak, and you get to a point where you know where the sweet spot is just by listening.