DIY: Assioma DUO-Shi In GR500 Flat Pedals, Done Right

Hey folks, I wanted to share my little DIY project to put power meters into some flat pedals. Across here, Reddit, and other places there have been a few discussions related to this, so I am obviously not the only weirdo who wants to rock the “kiddie pedals” with power meters.

The main concern that I had was that sticking the DUO-Shi meters into a non-approved pedal body would damage or otherwise compromise them, even if they were able to be physically fitted. These meters are one of the cheapest options out there, but even so they are by no means “cheap” parts!

Check out this little Instructable article that I wrote up to detail the project. IMO the end-result is that the DUO-Shi’s are installed in a way that is functionally identical, and structurally 95% the same as in any of the officially compatible pedal bodies.

Obviously, most people do not have access to a milling machine, so the “DIY” part is a little misleading. As noted in the article, it could be done with a hack saw and file, but really that is only a good idea if you are an experienced fabricator, and you know how to properly fixture things. Whatever the case, maybe it will inspire some other people to try things!

So far, I have a couple hundred miles on these and they are working out flawlessly. There seem to be several other Shimano pedal bodies that these would work in, either directly, or with modifications like those I made. Basically, if you look through the maintenance manuals for their pedals and see that the spindle assembly uses bearing balls and a sleeve like the ones in my article, then there is a good chance that the DUO-Shi’s will fit.

The main areas of concern with any non-official pedal bodies are around how far in the M15 threads start and end, and the depth at which the 13.83mm bore ends. If the threads start too far in, then excessive bending force will be placed on the DUO-Shis’ outer aluminum sleeve. If they end too soon, you cannot thread them in all the way. If the 13.83mm bore ends too soon, then the aluminum sleeve could bottom-out and cause all sorts of issues. And, if there is no 18.83mm bore then that is its own issue. If the bore is too small, then the sleeve will not go in at all. If it is larger, then there is a potential for premature failure of the sleeve at the end of the threads. The radial clearance between the sleeve and 13.83mm bore is 0.01mm (10µm!), and under pedaling loads there is probably more than enough flex in the assembly so that the sleeve will deflect and press against the bore, giving it support. If the bore is even slightly larger, then the end will just be floating and possibly deflect even more. This paragraph probably only makes sense if you read the Instructable entry.

Lastly, “Should I be worried about being able to easily step on the power meter body since I am not clipping in?” In short, no. I tend to ride in running shoes which have relatively soft soles. Clipless shoe bottoms are generally a lot harder and have plastic+metal bits. One could easily clonk the power meter body with a hurried attempt to get at the pedals, and if anything, the running shoes seem less hazardous. Thus far, I have not found myself stepping on the meters at all anyway. If anything, the approximately +15mm Z offset suits me better and I am enjoying an improvement in leg comfort when riding now!

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I wouldn’t personally have much use for these, but that doesn’t change the fact that this is a seriously cool hack. Thank you for sharing.

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For sure, this qualifies as a “you do you, bro” effort lol. I am primarily a trail runner who started cycling again during recovery from an injury, and found that I enjoyed it enough to make it part of a regular training routine. 99% of my cycling prior to that was strictly for commute purposes (3-4k miles a year), with a little mountain biking sprinkled in here and there.

When I started riding for fun/exercise again I quickly found that trying to apply the heart-rate based training style I used for running was not translating super well to the bike, so eventually I decided to look into power-based feedback. It started out with a used Neo 2T I found on Craigslist, and then turned into the article I posed since I wanted to capture power on my real rides.

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Super cool

This is awesome and thanks for doing this. Would you be into doing this mod for others? Or did you find any other pedals that are plug and play with the assioma?

Would you have any idea how this might work with the Assioma MX spindles?

Hey @JoPage …looks like the conversion may actually work based on this thread.

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SO… how much to do the modifications for me if I post the parts to you? :grin: (Though I’m in the UK and I assume you’re probably US?)

I have not tried this out with any other pedals, but as long as they use M15x1 threads and have similar dimensions to those posted in the Instructable page, they should be able to be modified to work.

Regarding doing this mod for others, I do not think that I would be willing to do it. There is just too much liability involved if someone has a mechanical failure and gets hurt. I would probably need to draft some sort of legal release that prospective buyers would need to sign, and that sort of takes the fun out of it!

I’ve ordered the spindles, pedals and taps. Wish me luck :grin:

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Awesome. You got this. Just take your time with it all and make sure to clean out all of the old grease + metal chips really well (brake cleaner spray works great lol). Just make sure that the threads go deep enough that the spindles will go all the way in, and that the end of the spindle isn’t crushed up against anything at the end.

A friend of mine has a mill, hopefully he won’t fuck it up :grin: Apologeis, but I have a few queries:

  1. “Note that in the CAD images, the red surfaces indicate places where modifications of the original GR500 pedal bodies were needed.”

    Is the red bit deep in the pedal bore where you tried reaming it out, but then on the set you made up that you’re now riding you decided actually it wasn’t necessary, and indeed it seems it wasn’t necessary?

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  1. you mention cleaning grease and chips out, and this query is probably solved by the Duo-Shi’s manual, but I don’t have that yet. Having cleaned all the gunk out, are the spindles then a dry fit in the pedal body, other than the thread locker that comes on them? Or would you lightly grease the sleeves either side of the threads?

And, as a (probably) less-important (but I’m curious) bonus:

  1. I’m confused by this CAD drawing of the GR500 body + spindle. I can see it looks like the tapered part of the metal sleeve has bottomed out in that recess, but everything to the left looks like it’s supposed to insert further into the pedal? Just bad design on their part, or are there good reasons why so many things don’t seem to line up, or might you have measured wrong and actually the whole assembly does sit further in than that?

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Thank you @TastySloth!

  1. The smaller red portion deeper in the spindle was an area that I did drill out slightly to make 100% sure that I would not accidentally bottom-out the nuts on the Duo-Shi’s. As long as you do not shorten the entry sleeve any more than shown in the instructable (2mm), I think you would be OK omitting the change at the bottom of the bore. It was a simple enough change to drill the bottom out a little to ensure that the nut would not bind.
  2. Your best bet is to follow the spindles’ instructions. They only seem to mention that lubrication is not needed. Since they come with thread locker, you probably want to get the old grease out since thread locker does not work with it there. It will also catch the metal chips from milling and tapping, so you need to clean it all out either way. In my case I do not even have the thread locker in there since I removed/reinstalled the spindles a couple of times to do test fits. So far zero issues with loosening or backing out.
  3. The model is correct. The stock configuration has the tapered part of the bearing housing bottom out in the pedal (this is the case in the SPD and GR500 pedals). It is part of how the assembly is designed to limit/control axial and radial runout. In the case of the GR500’s, yes it is kind of weird looking. There is in fact a bunch of “unused” thread sitting there and some seemingly needless gaps. I have no idea why. Maybe they did not put a lot of effort into the design of platform pedals since they are not exactly the hottest items on the market.
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Have made these now. Local machinist took 8.2mm off the bodies for me, and I did the tapping myself. Doddle. Just been for my first ride with them, great success. I hope they’ll cope with the abuse and last, the spindles are obviously designed with road use in mind, not pretty full-on mountain biking. But I’m only 78kg (weight limit of 120kg) and not putting out the 3,000W that they’ll apparently measure up to… :crossed_fingers:

@JoPage

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Let me know how it goes. Ive bodged on some XX cranks with a quarq :grin:

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