Trying to move awhey from so much dependence on whey and looking at alternatives. I can’t stand the taste of pea or any of the other “plant-based” protein powders. I’m looking to create my own “recovery” drink.
What are your thoughts on the effectiveness (for recovery) of mixing something like Vital Protein Peptides and OJ.? I find VPP dissolves so easily and is truly tasteless. I’m just not sure of its effectiveness. Yes, I know it’s missing some of the amino’s but does that matter? Is VPP a good source of protein for muscle recovery and moderate muscle building/health (not a meal replacement.
VPP+OJ vs Scratch Recovery? What say you?
If anyone has a good recommendation on a “flavorless” plant-protein or tried egg-based protein powder, curious about your thoughts.
Collagen isn’t a “complete” protein from an amino acid perspective, so there are better sources. Depending on who you ask, you shouldn’t count collagen towards your total protein intake goal because of that.
Must have been bad collagen. Collagen too is available quite cheaply, though not by that name, we also call it gelatine and it is available as desert even
Not looking at it for a “protein source” but just to use as needed in a post-workout recovery source. Not sure if that’s different but the “benefits” of collagen seem to match what needed for recovery…hmm
TR did a podcast that covered collagen. As I recall it’s best taken 30 to 45 min before a workout. I think it has to do with synovial fluid filling joints as we exercise and that transports the collagen.
Thanks. I’ve listened to this. Good Episode, always love their insights. That said, my question is a little different. They focused on adding collagen as (you described) a pre-supplement, I’m curious about it as a recovery tool as opposed to a “standard” recovery drink. Same but different. Cheers.
As far as “part of” I think it is a valid addition. Not a complete protein or complete solution. Companies like Hammer Nutrition add Type 11 to things like their Tissue Rejuvenator along with other ingredients. It can’t hurt.
I use collagen and it does help with my poor worn out knees.
IMO, collagen has been the most overblown / oversold supplement in recent times. There were a couple of small studies about tendons, collagen and vitamin C but they didn’t compare it to a complete protein like whey or chicken.
You need sugars to refill depleted muscle glycogen and you need adequate protein throughout the day to rebuild muscle. Muscle protein synthesis takes hours and hours so I question whether some amino acids right after a workout would do anything at all to move the needle. Also, you need 20g of leucine to kick off muscle protein synthesis so ingesting an incomplete protein/amino doesn’t’ seem hugely beneficial.
From a cost benefit point of view, you can buy a small tub of collagen for $45 or buy 3-5 pounds of whey for your smoothie for $45.
from so much dependence on whey and looking at alternatives. I can’t stand the taste of pea or any of the other “plant-based” protein powders. I’m looking to create my own “recovery” drink.
