So what you’re saying is it’s actually TRAINERROAD that’s acquiring Zwift
The fact that no one from TR has said these rumors are totally BS and 100% untrue means there’s at least SOME substance to them.
In which case, Nate, or anyone else on either side CAN’T come in and say anything about ongoing negotiations or a deal of any kind between them and another company.
Quote from Nate from the aforementioned podcast in December. It’s very telling I think, and hints at more of a partnership ‘Zwift Premium by TrainerRoad’ than an acquisition IMO.
“There’s a huge market of people that haven’t heard of us yet. What’s nice is, Zwift has made it where lots of cyclists own a trainer now, right. They bought it for it, and I think out of those people, if we can let them know that this is something that you can use (TrainerRoad), you can use it with Zwift or separately, and if you have that kind of fire inside where you wish to measure yourself and get faster and improve yourself, then TrainerRoad is right for you.
It’s a blessing and a curse to have a big player in the market that has grown it, because they suck a lot of air out but they’ve also made the pie so much bigger, and there’s a lot of opportunity for us”
The reason I love TR is their business model of getting cyclists faster. And Nate many time has said on the pod cast through out TR meeting many suggested features idea is scrap because it did not meet the idea of getting cyclists model. I tip my hat to Nate for that.
Zwift is fun and popular! BUT is Zwift getting Cyclists faster? To me Zwift is more of a distraction than anything else. Zwift is opposite of everything TR is. Annoying music/sound, 2000’s user interface and graphic and too many unnecessary things on screen when I train is THE reason I start using TR.
So mergeing of the two platform is a hard NO for me.
BOAR ON THE FLOOR. FTW
- For those that like it, YES.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of people exposed to indoor cycling in ways they may have never imagined. Even without any TR use, so many Z riders are more fit and likely faster in their lives (particularly in early season) because they use Z for off-season riding & training.
I know many casual riders that come to spring far more ready than they did without Z. Sure, there were plenty of options out there (including TR) but until Z, nothing took hold and garnered the following we see it with now.
Branching into whether Z as an “add-on” to stuff like TR is a different issue and one that is highly variable. People like a range of stuff for entertainment, and Z is just one of those options.
100% yes.
Stop with all the doom and gloom! Please be just a push to Zwift like the outside workout with Garmin. If they merge… the horror, the horror
So?
That’s like expecting Tom Brady to announce his retirement just satisfy all the people who think ESPN is news.
As my daughter likes to say, “All shall be revealed.”
Patience… ain’t nobody got time fa dat!!!
However this works out I just hope we still have the ability to run the TR app separately and we’re not forced into the Zwift workout module. Just selecting a workout in Zwift is kind of a disaster as it stands right now. Even if they are automatically uploaded to Zwift I couldn’t imagine having to scroll through a long list of TR workout to find the on I’m supposed to do on a given day.
I’ve been using them both together for years and think it works great the way it is. I love the ability to do anything I want in Zwift (group rides, big events, free rides, etc) while doing a TR workout simultaneously.
Agree, the silence is pretty telling.
Have a feeling that TR is nearing it’s development ceiling too. Yes there are some lose ends to tidy up, but I’m not sure there will be much after the current version of AT that would be a logical next step in development.
Zwift, now with AI-powered training by TrainerRoad
Fast is fun, and faster is funner!
And sometimes silence is just silence.
On to your speculation. So you knew AT was coming before they announced it? Just wondering since there were few if any real hints dropped until their public release. As such, most of us had no idea they were cooking that up. Point being that things can be quiet with plenty of work in the background and then, BOOM, we get something new and different.
Calling AT the peak seems premature and short sighted to me. Couple that with the stated stuff that Nate covered (HRV, menstrual cycles, sleep, etc.) there seem to be clear ideas or at least hopes to push beyond and improve AT even it it’s not a totally new item.
Not sure about this. AT took a couple years through development and betas before it hit production. And I imagine there is still a lot to iterate on. One big, requested feature being AT working on uncategorized rides. Plus you are doing smaller, quality of life features, bug squashing, etc. AT is a huge feature and I doubt it will be ‘completed’ any time soon or ever. That is software development.
The only thing zwift is good for in my opinion is racing. I never free ride or do any of their workouts. I just use it to put the fitness I have built through TR and outdoor riding to use.
You are missing the elephant in the room - the car crash that is the Zwift UI. Having a machine (well graphics card) that can run it is like putting a Band-aid on a decapitated corpse!
Who actually shares their TR workouts on strava? No one cares about seeing the 3x15 that you did at 88%-94% of threshold. I keep all TR workouts private as to not clog other peoples feed with blue bars and progression levels that they have no interest in.
Given the activity and discussion on that thread (plus what I see in my own Strava feed), a whole lotta people do.
Like the post above, PLENTY of people.
Fine for you to make a choice to have it private, but recognize there are MANY different people with different approaches to ALL of this. There is no single option that is right for all. Share, don’t share, do what you want… but know that your solution is not likely to be the same as all others.