So pick a different cog? This argument or gripe seems to make zero sense whatsoever. I do .8 IF for 5hours on TR, it’s 120miles. Which, would be the same as where I and ride outside (it’s Flat). Versus I do .8 IF in the mountains for 5hours and its 100miles. Who cares? And Zwift translating that into “mileage” is just as meaningless. You do a flat route? It’s faster. Do you a hilly route? It’s slower. You can fix this in TR based on your gearing. Either way, it’s irrelevant.
@kellenhassell (and anyone else) Please, no more talk about speed or distance here. See my post above. There are numerous places to take that discussion. It is very Off-Topic and not needed here.
As a legacy TR customer I better get all access to any new Zwift integration at no additional cost!
Man I am out of the loop.
There is no loop.
I fully agree - Oh ! and legacy customers should be given free shares in this new merged TR/Zwift organization 
Maybe but I don’t feel like that level of a discussion required Eric Min to fly to Reno to have an in person discussion.
Face to face brewskis with your bros isn’t the same over Zoom. Dude is a true bro coming in like that.
It would be a massive change to zwift. Lots of in person meetings between companies aren’t really needed but still happens
Yeah, even at a modest level of sharing possible, this would be a BIG deal (the 2 biggest players in the market working together?) and would be totally appropriate for face-to-face, but that is just me.
I also see it as a sign of respect that Eric went to Reno to meet TR.
This sounds like a GoJo deal, which is less of an merger and more of a acquisition that may reshape the leadership of Waystar Royco.
So what you’re saying is it’s actually TRAINERROAD that’s acquiring Zwift 
The fact that no one from TR has said these rumors are totally BS and 100% untrue means there’s at least SOME substance to them.
In which case, Nate, or anyone else on either side CAN’T come in and say anything about ongoing negotiations or a deal of any kind between them and another company.
Quote from Nate from the aforementioned podcast in December. It’s very telling I think, and hints at more of a partnership ‘Zwift Premium by TrainerRoad’ than an acquisition IMO.
“There’s a huge market of people that haven’t heard of us yet. What’s nice is, Zwift has made it where lots of cyclists own a trainer now, right. They bought it for it, and I think out of those people, if we can let them know that this is something that you can use (TrainerRoad), you can use it with Zwift or separately, and if you have that kind of fire inside where you wish to measure yourself and get faster and improve yourself, then TrainerRoad is right for you.
It’s a blessing and a curse to have a big player in the market that has grown it, because they suck a lot of air out but they’ve also made the pie so much bigger, and there’s a lot of opportunity for us”
The reason I love TR is their business model of getting cyclists faster. And Nate many time has said on the pod cast through out TR meeting many suggested features idea is scrap because it did not meet the idea of getting cyclists model. I tip my hat to Nate for that.
Zwift is fun and popular! BUT is Zwift getting Cyclists faster? To me Zwift is more of a distraction than anything else. Zwift is opposite of everything TR is. Annoying music/sound, 2000’s user interface and graphic and too many unnecessary things on screen when I train is THE reason I start using TR.
So mergeing of the two platform is a hard NO for me.
BOAR ON THE FLOOR. FTW
- For those that like it, YES.
There are literally hundreds of thousands of people exposed to indoor cycling in ways they may have never imagined. Even without any TR use, so many Z riders are more fit and likely faster in their lives (particularly in early season) because they use Z for off-season riding & training.
I know many casual riders that come to spring far more ready than they did without Z. Sure, there were plenty of options out there (including TR) but until Z, nothing took hold and garnered the following we see it with now.
Branching into whether Z as an “add-on” to stuff like TR is a different issue and one that is highly variable. People like a range of stuff for entertainment, and Z is just one of those options.
100% yes.
Stop with all the doom and gloom! Please be just a push to Zwift like the outside workout with Garmin. If they merge… the horror, the horror