What workout did you do today? (2020, part 2)

Jepson. Very doable despite so close to FTP

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look at the last two intervals - failed.

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My favourite 5x15@97% to check how things are going. Not especially hard, legs felt good all the time, hr stable and low, breathing like during SST. So endurance rides are doing their job.

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You didn’t quit and pushed through to the end whilst close to your limits to me isn’t a fail.

Some days we aren’t at 100% and depending on fatigue/life stress etc can make all the difference. Just a few percent off our game on some workouts can make those intervals impossible to complete. Another day you could crush it…

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^ this

I’d question the culture of #fail that appears to frequently come up on this thread and others.

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I’m not Bashful so here’s my failed workout.
On a positive I did manage to survive 2 intervals more than last time.

I think the long rest between sets doesn’t help.

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:rofl:

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I had a ramp test in my calendar yesterday but I had a CT scan at 6pm. I was back by 7:30pm but after having chemicals in me I wasn’t in the mood. Anyway I had the itch to do a 20mins test instead, so I did that tonight. With a non ERG 20mins test I do a lot better than a ramp, I can have that minute or two at my FTP but less than the target and recover to beat the target. When I was at my best no recovery was needed. 284w for 20mins (garmin says 285w :joy:) an FTP of 270w. After it I’ve actually put on weight 60.3kg, 4.48w/kg (I was 59kg straight out of bed) :+1:

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Sorry to be a buzzkill, but isn’t the 20 minute test supposed to have a 5 minute all out effort before the 20 minute block? I’d be worried that protocol may give a too high number to work with, especially if you only take off 5%.

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Some do but hey, ho :slight_smile:
I’ll see how I get on with it. I’ve just looked at my records. Before I finished with my coach, it was his protocol, and I got 296w, 281w and my first Ramp test FTP was 272w. If I struggle I’ll lower it by that (at least 3%) :slight_smile:

PS I think I’ll do tomorrow night’s session and maybe future sessions with ERG switched off.

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Why 5x15 specifically? Doesn’t seem as crazy as 20 minute intervals but as easy as 10? For some reason, 5x15 doesn’t sound as daunting!

I simply like 15 minutes intervals. They are quite short, easier mentally and a little bit easier to recover (very subjective but this is my experience after doing threshold 3x week). In the end this is 75 min TiZ so pretty good stimulus. I have done 4x20@97% and overall RPE was not so much higher but it has provided more satisfaction. 2x40 was also good but little bit too hard when doing more intensity during the week. And I like this workout as ā€œgo toā€ threshold workout and I have done it so many times I know very well how everything should be. The progression is 3 min brakes between that rises level a little bit.

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Yeah, for some reason when the interval length starts with a 2- or higher such as 20+ minute intervals, it just mentally seems more taxing. 3x18 just seemed so much more doable than 3x20 even though it’s only 2 extra minutes per interval :sweat_smile:

I haven’t tried 5x15 yet. I may add it to my next threshold progression. I’ll have to see if I can compress it into a 90 minute workout for a weekday!

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I don’t know that I’d call 110% of goal FTP power ā€œall outā€, but I’m always suspicious if I have big jump and then see that the 5 minute ā€œclearingā€ effort was less elevated from what I held for 20 minutes.

But either way, if one uses 92-94% w/out the 5 minute piece, they’re still likely within the margin of error/personal difference.

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Tallac +1 with 30 min of zone 2 thrown in. Last week of SSB1. Ready for a break.

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I very much enjoy these short SIT workouts.

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Today I was feeling awesome so in my scheduled workout Monitor I upped the intensity factor by 5%, and combined the last 2 intervals by just ignoring the rest break. I think that my FTP is set too low because I took a 2.5 week break after my A event on October 24th, and I retested for my first ride back. I had a drop from 303 → 281, but in the week and a half that I have been back into training I am already feeling like I have gained most of that fitness back. Another thing that could be affecting my RPE during these workouts is that I had been on a high volume plan for 3 months before my race on October 24th, and now I am doing a low volume plan with strength training built in so that I don’t get burned out before my A race which is still 50 weeks away. At the end of December I am going to a mid volume plan, then in March I am going back into a high volume plan, all with strength training built in. This could be affecting my RPE because my TSS per week has gone down by more than 50% since this change in plans.

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Just finished the first four weeks of mid volume short power. Did a ramp test yesterday and netted -1 watt. Bummer! Chalked it up to some gnarly insomnia I’ve had for a few weeks and tried not to sweat it. Couldn’t resist retaking the test today after a decent night’s sleep. Netted… +1 watt.

I typically spend about a minute at max HR on ramp tests. But on both ramp tests this week I fell a few BPM shy of max HR (interestingly, 201 both times. My max is 205.)

Considering the insomnia, the weirdly low failure HR and the fact that I’m very very new to cardio and probably should not be plateauing at 2.7 w/kg (lol), I think I’m going to switch the second half of the block to low volume and try to focus on recovery.

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I think I completed every workout and I still lost like 4 watts after the first part of short power build. I didn’t adjust my ftp and just chalked it up to being really wrecked from how hard it was. I gained like 10 watts or something after the second part.

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