Exactly. I use my road bike as is - same road wheels. However, beware that as you are getting the feel of rollers and even with the little “bumpers” near the end of the rollers [parabolic], you can still rub the side of particularly the front tire against the roller housing and cause some sidewall wear. I have even seen some small chunks of rubber from the front tire sidewall near the trainer on my really careless days.
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I got some rollers yesterday (cycleops aluminium rollers) and wondered what noises are normal?
I’m starting in the big ring as I’m new to it all. Once some energy gets into the rollers there is a rhythmic humming noise that gets louder and louder.
I use my regular tyres, but rollers are the quietest with slick tyres. It’s better to use tyres with soft rubber, because hard rubber wears rear drum.
follow up on my quick motion rollers: In my old house I was getting a huge vibration. Big enough I went back to a trainer. I was using them on a piece of plywood on top of carpet. My new house it’s on a solid hardwood floor. Very little vibration. So, the more solid your platform, the less vibration and noise you will get.
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I started this thread a year ago when I was looking to upgrade my rollers. As I said last year, I have been doing all my indoor ride on rollers for a lot of years. I finally bought the Elite Nero rollers a few weeks ago. A few observations…Unboxing was pretty easy, just pull them out of the box, unfold them, put the bands in place and plug in. The rollers are heavy to move. I don’t think I would want to take the to a race to use for warm up. I used the Elite app to complete the setup but I found it a bit confusing and had trouble getting the calibration process to work. The rollers ride very smooth and I find it easy to transition to standing on the bike.
I have been using Rouvy for most of my indoor rides. It was easy to pair my PowerTap P2 pedals to the app and use them as the power source. The rollers are pretty responsive to the gradient changes up to about 7%. (the max grade the Nero is able to simulate) I find I need anticipate changes in uphill grades, otherwise its very easy to get bogged down, I’m planning to start a TR plan next week. I’m hoping the Nero works as well with TR as with Rouvy. @Jonathan mentioned, in the last podcast, he was getting the Nero. I’m looking forward to his review.
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I have been using my Nero Rollers since June and mostly on Rouvy or Elite’s MyRealVideos. I have used the Elite app for FTP test and other testing which worked seamlessly. Recently started using the Rouvy Apple TV app so had to use the Nero power and cadence due to Bluetooth limitations [only two BT devices can attach at a time - HRM and Nero]. The Nero produced approximately the same power readings as my Favero Assioma pedals, but a bit of a lag.
Then recently on long ascents over 4% grade, the Nero develop a loud knocking noise that would sometimes go away the next day on the same course but started to be consistent. Called Elite distributor and Elite stood by their warranty. The distributor customer service told me to send back my Nero rollers and they would be replacing the unit. The new unit is on its way [its been about a week], so riding in the chilly air in the morning.
I was having the same problem with the knocking noise. I disassemble all drums, remove some plastics from resistance unit and reassembe the Nero. Now it works great.
I thought about disassembly but when Elite’s Andrea asked me to return, I figure they might want to look into the problem themselves.
Where did the plastic come from?
By the way, even with the noise the resistance was consistent.
Yes, even with the noise the unit works fine (I’m using Favero powermeter, instead of Nero’s integrated something…).
Got my replacement Nero rollers in 2 weeks. Back on rollers and these work as good if not better than my first set and no knocking noise so far on three uphill rides. We will see in a few weeks.
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Do you find that the resistance stays consistent in ERG mode? How long are you riding on them at a time?
Thanks. Been looking at these for a while.
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https://analyze.dcrainmaker.com/#/public/e594ae8e-98c2-415a-6038-0e2fcb9be714
Comparison of power readings from Nero rollers and Ronde L powermeter from SIM mode ride on Zwift. There is no power reading or resistance consistency, when you use only Nero rollers. Nero is the best ever resistance unit in SIM mode for Zwift and Trainerroad, when powermeter is on bike.
Right on. I never use smart trainers for their power function- either SIM or ERG is what I want out of it. I have a Quarq for power.
I was referring to the smaller resistance unit(s) on the Nero, compared to a Kickr or Hammer. In some units in the past, Ive seen reviews that they tend to get hot on longer efforts (ala. Alp de Zwift) and “lose” some resistance.
I have the Arion with a DIY motion platform and after calibration it reads a consistent power vs my trusty powertap wheel.
However, the power reading seems to be very sensitive to some changes like tyre pressure or cadence if it moves too much away from the range used for the calibration process.
This would be a minor issue if the calibration process was simple.
It is a pain in the tail to say the least.
Hopefully, Elite changed the method for the Nero, I really don’t know.
When things align, however, the erg mode is very effective.
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How did Bluebell go? If you can remember that far back?
I’m getting back into TR and agonizing about ditching my miserable first-gen kickr snap in favor of a kreitler training station. Bluebell will be in my Short Power Build plan and is a perfect example.
@Scollett84 do you find that form degrades based on A) the combined challenge of staying upright and meeting hard power targets, or B) higher resistance in the rollers is hard to manipulate with shifting and cadence? Reason I ask is that using the fork stand would resolve A but not B. Curious because I need to be inside quite often, and to do a short power build plan, and I am considering this exact kreitler station setup.
I did Tabatas on the Elite QM rollers on resistance 3, which was a huge challenge but ultimately doable. So I think Bluebell will be fine.
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I used one of the early Elites, the Elite E-motion one, for nine years, and it worked so good. Now I got a Quick-Motion roller, and I get HEAVY vibrations, from, I think, the driving roller. I can feel it all through the road bike I use, and it sounds a lot. I really can’t keep this one, vibrates too much. I asked my bike workshop to replace the roller I think is faulty, to see if that helps. Can you upload sound files here?
Upload to YouTube or Soundcloud directly.
Here are the noises and the vibrations of my new Elite Quick-Motion Roller. Sounds like some kind of engine in there - I’m quite disappointed, especially after riding nine years on my former Elite E-Motion Roller. Listen to this sound, first starting out slowly, and then picking up speed to normal exercise speed.
https://soundcloud.com/user-782001904-315487351/elite-quick-motion-rollerunwanted-vibrations-and-noise