Lionel Sanders Hour Record šŸ‡ØšŸ‡¦

So let’s put this in perspective…framing it as 7% is kinda worthless since the effort needed to bridge that difference is substantial, but intuitively, 7% sounds reasonable.

Compared to Campanearts, Sanders came up 3.8km short, or 2.3 miles. If it had been a race to 55.08km )Campanearts distance), Sanders would still have had 2.3 miles to go when Campanearts crossed the line. In terms of time, that is 4’27ā€.

If someone loses a TT by 4’27ā€, not many people are saying ā€œhe can beat that other guyā€ā€¦heck, finishing that far down doesn’t even get you noticed on the results sheet.

For additional perspective, Sanders barely beat Jens Voight distance, who was a good, but not great TT’er. Voight was also at the tail end of his career and basically did the record to grab it before anyone else tried it. It was widely considered a ā€œsoftā€ target and everyone knew it wouldn’t stand for long.

There is no way riding a better line, improving his track experience and aerodynamics get him 4’27ā€. He needs a massive boost in power to even sniff the record.

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I think there’s more to it to be honest, they did say that the track he was on was one of the slowest. Not sure how much that would add but seeing how e everyone goes to altitude there’s a good chance it helps a lot. In terms of power, he stated that he never ride uci legal frame and he didn’t had much time on this one. So maybe his aero wouldn’t improve much, but potentially power he can hold in the new position would. So he can absolutely go faster, how much faster I don’t know, but I wouldn’t write him off that easily.

Not sure if anyone has actually watched Campenearts record but his line is only marginally better than Lionel’s anyway. Judging by some of the comments here Victor could add another few km there no problem by tidying that up.

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Another way to put it is this. It would be easier for a woman to go farther than LS than for LS to take the men’s WR.

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Oh sure…there is a TON more to it. I just reframed the situation into metrics that we could relate to. The claim was made that it was ā€œonlyā€ 7%, which seems a reasonable jump. Again, our initial reaction to that measurement is ā€œnot so bad,not even 10%ā€

But when you lay out that 7% in the real-world metrics that the record is based on, you better understand the massive gulf between LS’s ride and the record.

Think of it this way…imagine trying to go ~2.5 mph faster than your best 40k TT time. That is a MASSIVE increase in performance. Now imagine trying to do it at over 50 kph.

The best thing is that people are talking about it! Possible or not, there’s no denying LS is is a positive force for cycling — strava records, zwift wins, Hour records… Man loves to race!

I’m gonna check slowtwitch, see if the tri nerds think he could WR.
(edit: already 10 pages/260+ comments on it! :scream: )

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You’ll almost certainly find some fan boys who will say he can, but not for those who understand what it takes to break the record,

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ā€œPositive forceā€? I’d venture to guess that 99.9% of cyclists have no idea who he is.

It’s better than 100% of everyone not knowing who you, and your negative force, are. :rofl:

Awaiting the red card…

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Very cool he took the Canadian record from Ed Veal, an ā€œamateurā€.

But please, LS is simply not going to ever attempt nor compete for the World Hour Record. Let’s not get ahead of ourselves.

Congrats on his effort - truly amazing.

And? :man_shrugging:t2::man_shrugging:t2::man_shrugging:t2:
Obree was an amateur.

It’s not a poke at him being an amateur. It’s a poke in jest to consider Ed an actual amateur.

Veal was on the same PanAm silver medal pursuit team as the kid I snatched a KOM from…my personal version of getting an Hour Record. Hoping they build a few stop lights and speed bumps on that seg. :laughing:

Has anyone here attempted a real life Hour ride?
(not on the trainer but full-on velodrome styles)

Can’t forget about rowers turning roadie going tri back to road – Wurf currently 100th at the Vuelta!

Update: and runners going roadie — here’s to you Mike Woods and your Stage 7 Vuelta win!

And in the other direction, Adam Hansen going ā€˜back’ to Tri after 20 or so years as a pro cyclist

Doesnt this thread, or at least most of the comments belong on A N Other forum? We all know the one famous for the long LS tirades?

The boy done good. Can we leave the hyperbole and hypercriticism out?

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2021 goal: improve my 1hr power by 7%.

You mean your speed.

Aye, you’ll have to get your power up by 20% to get 7% faster, or put another way, make your 6 to 8 minute power into your 1 hour power.

Mike

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I mean just what I wrote.

Thanks for pretending, once again, that you know more than everyone else. :rofl:

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