All outside custom workouts. Since the default pass, I believe a couple surveys were fail. But the vast majority were pass surveys.
Same here for me - mine’s based on 100%, so shows as Threshold. If I think my FTP has increased I need to change manually in settings before the workout or bump manually as I go.
Today was 62 mins (under-estimated fuelling a little, and think I could’ve gone a little longer) and a bump to a PL of 10, which seems right looking at catalogue workout Unicorn +1 (60 mins close to threshold). Almost back to the level I was after base phase! 
When I completed my survey response or try to update, “I did not pass” is not an option in the Desktop or IOS app. Only option is why I didn’t complete (“Intensity”).
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I suspect that is because you ran a workout via the TR app and that is what loaded into your TR calendar as the completed workout.
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AFAIK, the “I did not pass” option is only available for “outside” workouts that come from a source other than the TR app.
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Assuming your calendar is public, it looks like you did Colosseum -1 yesterday. And no outside rides since August 16th. Per Chad’s post above, the “I did not pass” option is (probably) only available for outside rides that receive a default pass. I say probably because all my rides over many months are outside custom workouts.
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I did this test at the end of June, with the power settings based off my then-FTP. The workout was done in the TR Android app.
On the test, I managed 45 or so minutes for the main body of the test and then cooled down. And received a “Fail” survey.
So I complained to customer support that I had not failed. Indeed on this and all similar test protocols, it is almost certain that one will “fail” in the AT sense. So I suggested to support that we be able to tag such workouts as tests, which would prompt their own form of survey.
If you think that this is an appropriate way of dealing with this problem, then a nudge to feature requests might be in order. Certainly some fix for this issue is needed.
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Yeah, they get around this by making the ramp test a very special ‘dynamic’ workout.
I doubt they will add anything for this special case for non-TR tests. Support mentioned that they were planning (no timeline or priority mentioned) adding a checkbox for workouts to exclude them from AT, just like there are for TSS and PRs. I think that this is an essential feature for them to have, and will be necessary for far longer than they would like to admit 
This will at least make it so these tests don’t mess up progression levels, but they won’t contribute to them either. The general solution that solves this any many other problems is for them to be able to classify unstructured outside rides, and adjust PLs based on that. This solves a bunch of outside problems, and for these tests you would just need to record it on another device, or (I think), download the .fit file, delete the workout, then upload the .fit file, and it will not be a ‘TR’ ride. I think that is about the most special handling that we can expect from them for non-TR tests.
I am liking AT (although I am currently a bit scared about the VO2 max workouts in my future), but it has a long, long way to go.
Planning on ditching the ramp test for next season and trying to decide on the KM method or the 20min TR test.
Those that have done both, how close were your numbers? I know the KM test gives TTE as well so that’s a plus. Admittedly though I don’t remember exactly how the KM protocol works, need to reread his blog.
Also, is there a “shared” version of the KM test made on workout creator floating around?
Is there a “team” created with other FTP tests as created by users?
I have dialled up Lola for Monday to have a feel out with. My theory being I can dial up an extra 10min and ramp up at the end. Intervals.ICU will do an analysis off of the average for the 30+min is my theory.
This is the one I know of for the KM tests:
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Thanks Chad! Perfect 
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Random question, when in a “team” do all the normal privacy settings remain except for administrators?
Good question, and I can’t say I know for sure. I presume the “privacy” setting is all-or-nothing based on what I have seen elsewhere, but I have not paid much attention to it from the Team side of life.
Could be worth an email to TR support to get the full scoop.
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Thanks!
Everyone sticking to erg for these or resistance mode?
I’ll go against the grain here and say that I have done my KM tests in ERG mode. I have easy access to increase/decrease the set power, and find that it helps keep the effort very consistent. I’m generally a fan of erg mode.
I have only done a KM test and ramp test close in time once, and they lined up within a few watts for me - I think within 1%.
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Yes, close, however WKO typically shows my 20 minute power at ~95% of modeled FTP. Some coaches use other multipliers for example multiply 20 minute field test power by 95% to estimate FTP for slow twitch athletes, multiply by 90% for those with strong anaerobic power, and multiply by 92.5% if the coach doesn’t know the athletes power profile.
I’ve done long tests since 2017, and have always done them as long time trials. In other words, go for a negative split, start out a little conservative, settle in for 10-15 minutes, and then teeter back and forth over threshold and finish strong. From the TrainingPeaks blog that is basically Progression 3. Also note in the article, and I quote:
“I tell my athletes that there’s no wrong way to perform these tests; learning how to self-pace is a crucial skill for any competitive cyclist.”
KM intended these to be self-paced ^^ and outside IIRC, and if inside not done in Erg. If inside then probably better to do it in Zwift on a flat course. The only way to do them ‘wrong’ is to not learn how to self pace. So turn off Erg!! Erg is ‘wrong’ 
for this test just like the TR 8 and 20 minute tests use RESISTANCE mode.
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I have no idea because I never did both back to back. I can say that the 20 minute test sucks because it’s 20 minutes at 105% or so with the last minute or two at some last ditch high wattage. It’s just pure 20 minutes of suckage. If you pace it too fast you end up failing much earlier.
I do the baseline test or a little more. At some point around 20-25 minute you can just feel that you are at MLSS. You do that next push to a higher wattage and you start feeling like you only have 5 or 10 minutes left. It’s a good exercise to have your feeling for FTP sorted out.
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Just completed a KM Protocol proxy (Pioneer+3 where I tried to ramp up the final 10-12min).
Sensations were all as described by Kolie on the @empiricalcycling podcast; felt like SS for the first 20 or so min then got progressively more difficult without ever feeling like a mad effort.
I’m going to bump down my FTP I think (still cooling down so haven’t seen the average). It’s going to be a real test for AT as I’m at 7.3 or something Threshold already 
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Curious to others who have changed FTP from a long test, did you stick to it in all areas? i.e. I like to do (and have a progression lined up for the next six weeks of specialty) SS at 90%. It’s been 284W for a long time and I don’t find that to be over stressful unless heavily fatigued. I’m concerned about missing out on training stimulus/benefit if I’m not dropping my SS output. (I find SS is where I really make the biggest gains by far!)
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Just go longer or stick with power when doing SST work. It’s a zone not magic percentage - your body will see no difference. What will be a difference is your ability to put more work and recover better. If you have TTE from your FTP just go over that with your sst tiz.
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Has anyone tested at a 28min TTE?
I guided a friend of mine in person thru this test. I could quickly tell we were going to end up at around 225 watts just based on how he would try to push a bit harder but always return to around those watts.
RPE was slowly creeping up, HR stayed very stable thru-out the first 25min. After the first 25min min I told him to “increase the power if you want or continue and stop when you feel like it”
He shifted up once and tried to give it some more gas and stopped at the 28min mark.
He’s new to structured training but has been in triathlon for a while. He may have been able to go a bit longer if he kept the power stable but I think a good place to start would be 4x8min at FTP or 4x12 at 90%
First 10min 235
2nd 10min 213
next 6 min short burst at the beginning but avg 215
Last minute or or so was burst up to 260 and avg 240
I think he started out a little too hot and I wanted to try 205 to start but based on some feedback from recent rides he said that were relatively easy he went for 220/230, and still overshot it a bit. In time I think he will be able to figure out how to pace