Sounds like it. I guess we’ll find out pretty quickly if he can’t extend the interval lengths at 98%
His FTP is probably closer to 215 than 230. If he was at 235 and built up a bunch of lactate, he was able to clear it enough at 213 to put out 240 for the end burst. His FTP is probably 215-220W.
Definitely a pacing issue.
Did my own test for the first time. Ramp tests minus a few watts (98-99% intervals) used to work but no so much these days. Left my ego at the door and set my FTP what I thought it was from a few weeks of intervals.
Set it to 330 and went for the test. AI FTP is measuring 357. I wasn’t feeling stressed or anxious which was a great change. Starting easier really helps that.
3min all out power I tested last week is still at my all time best at 446, and it looks like I have a lot of TTE to try and get back. Made it to 30min, may have been able to go a little longer…maybe…but really just didn’t want to haha. I like that note of the test protocol. “The test only needs to be as long as you want it to be”
First workout will be a 3x12 @ 325

This might well be worth it’s own topic (let me know or feel free to make one if you think it’s right), but I figure posting this podcast here is a decent share to start. There’s some NSFW content like some of his other episodes, so keep that in mind.
Overall, I found this a great sweep of the FTP topic from testing options, test anxiety, high vs low results and application in training to name a few.
Always a good laugh to see Ten Minute tips squeezed into an hour podcast ![]()
I know. Not sure where that title comes from, but all ones in that series seem to exceed that time ![]()
Here’s a suggestion for followers of this thread/protocol:
Don’t schedule the test… just do it on a day where you feel good and can skip a rest interval on, say, a 2x20 FTP interval set. Bang out 45 min at threshold (or more) and ramp up the last 3-5 minutes. You’re doing the same thing without hyping it up, causing anxiety, etc.
Yep, I use a club zwift TT race that takes about 25mins and if feel good I just carry on after the finish line for another 10-15 mins
I think it started as 10 minutes, but now he calls it “some multiple of 10”!
I did this kind of unintentionally last week! I had scheduled 2x20 at FTP and I went on a climb that I rarely ride since it’s a bit too steep for tempo and SS, but good for FTP and it has zero traffic.
Anyway, I started off right at threshold and I was feeling great despite being at the beginning of the third week of a block. So 10 minutes in I got the idea of skipping the recovery and just do a 40 minutes repeat, which also corresponded to the time I thought I needed to reach the end of the climb.
After 20 minutes I felt so good that I stopped staring at the Wahoo and I went by feel with the only goal of doing my best time. Surprisingly, I arrived at the end of the official climb segment after 35 minutes, but luckily the road keeps going for a while on a rougher but still rideable surface.
At the 40 minute mark I was pretty much done and I gave up shortly after, although I’m pretty happy with the performance since it ended up being 41 minutes at almost 103% of my previous FTP!
One weird thing was my heart rate, it was unusually low considering that my threshold is 185 bpm and in efforts like these it usually ramps up very quickly.
Nonetheless, I’m now taking some days to recover and then I’ll try another effort like that to hopefully improve the TTE a bit and most importantly to set a PR on another climb ![]()
There’s something to having some work in before testing with respect to threshold riding. In one of his blogs on Evoq, @brendanhousler mentions doing long duration PDC testing after getting some work in your legs. Same experience here on Monday, start of my third week of a threshold block, 2x20 converted to a 1x45 with a high-power ramp/surge near the end. It’s something I’ve done several times before and it becomes my FTP/TTE test (though I usually call it at 45 min to manage in-block fatigue). I usually make that decision about 15 minutes in, generally in a set where I started at 96% or so and am feeling good.
Old topic but I recently tried out this test, I really liked it, you can really feel the point at which you cross over your threshold and my legs didn’t feel trashed for the rest of the ride like a 20 minute test would do.
It came out to 278 watts for me when TR was estimating 275w and Intervals.icu said 286w after a recent all out ride
Welp, as suggested on another thread, I tried this version of the FTP test. My last measured FTP was 225, but I thought I’d progressed to 230 or more. I set my FTP at 235 for the test. I could have been a bit better rested. I managed a pathetic 30 minutes.
Well, I’d been trying to improve time to exhaustion anyway. My IRL performance has been pretty strong even with extended efforts, so I think I would have managed a longer TTE if I were fresh. In any case, I shall return, and when I return I will be stronger.
Did you start lower than 235 and ramp up as per the test instructions? The thing I like about this test is that you can feel when you go over the line. At some point in the middle of the test you already know if you are going to get a bump in FTP or not.
To the top with you!
Trainer road AI FTP - 244 watts
KM Baseline FTP test tonight - 206 watts
Very cool ![]()
I actually really enjoyed the KM test. I think it’s the longest single interval I’ve ridden at threshold in training.
Did you do the test inside or outside? I’m asking because a long route with no interruptions is hard to find.
I figure 30-45 minutes on flat at threshold for me is 20-24mph depending on wind and whatnot. So I need at least 10-12 miles to do this test outside. Not too many roads like that and I don’t live in a big city.
Indoors. Too many rolling hills around me and not enough long climbs to do long steady state outdoors.
Were you failing all of your workouts before this test? I can’t imagine any of your zones were close to being correct.

