🎉 🎉 🎉 Introducing Adaptive Training! 🎉 🎉 🎉

Could the planned time off function be used to alter blocks i.e. to ride the wave of a strong block?

Example being: rest week is scheduled week four, you put planned time off week five, does the AT then understand you wouldn’t necessarily want two weeks off and extend your training block to suit.

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I had you beat by over 2 years, TR basically copied my idea and relabel it Train Now. I pretty much did all the work. I “demand” beta access now!

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For detecting overtraining can’t you see heart rate response during the training to the workout load? The way Garmin does at the start of workouts. Maybe keep recording heart rate after a workout to see it at rest?

Seriously.

Soon in the new ‘Your Progression Levels improvements thread’ thread :

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A few points and questions I haven’t seen an answer yet @Nate_Pearson or @SeanHurley

  • So does the ML redo it’s magic if I change the association of an outside ride (does it work with the “associate ride with” feature)?
  • Or do I have to have a pre-planned workout at the time of uploading the outside workout? (In that case a workaround could be do delete the imported outside ride, then schedule an outside workout and then re-import again, correct?)
  • Like 1x120min@90%? For some of us who follow some WKO principles (extensive aerobic)…

Last thought:

  • Would be nice to easily see past Breakthrough/super passes

They distracted us…so much hype…the negativity will come once it is released.

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When you drop your $99 subscription in part due to burn-out.
Then TR comes out with Adaptive Training, but the price is now $189
#facepalm

I guess the only real option is to continue as a seasonal subscriber & re-evaluate next time a price rise comes around

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The reason I don’t plan on ever dropping TR unless I quit cycling is that the TR constantly focuses on improving the product. It might no come as fast as some people may want, but the TR product today (not including AT) is notably better than when I started using it 3 years ago.

So even if there are things I don’t like about it today, I stay subscribed because I trust they will improve. Even if you don’t like the plan, the workout library, calendar, forum and podcast are worth $99/year to me.

That’s how I look at it.

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@JesseFortson @SeanHurley @Nate_Pearson

A fun question and a more serious one:

Of workouts commonly found in TR plans, which ones have the highest failure rates (I have my guesses here)?

Also, shorter V02 intervals seem like an entirely different energy system than long V02 intervals. I can complete just about any TR V02 workout at 90s or less, but I fail pretty much all of them at 3min or more. I’m just concerned that it will have trouble progressing someone like me. Any perspective here?

Thanks!

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Every once in a while something comes up that I did not think I needed. I am cautiously optimistic that adaptive training is one of them. Thank you very much TR team for making this possible.

With that in mind I have a few questions.

  1. Well all the features be available on the iPad/iPhone apps or is this something that is only on the Desktop app in the beginning?

  2. are the workouts weighted? For example if one was to do avalanche spire and have a super pass but following that have two days of rest versus someone who does eclipse +3 and the next day does polar bear and both workouts are just a pass are those weighted differently?

I had one more question but I forgot what it was so I will ask it when I remember again. My biggest hope is that adaptive training will save me from myself. I tend to continue progressing my workouts to the point of overreaching and only realize on race day when it’s too late.

If a user is not able to continue building on their progressions (across the higher intensities) would AT be able to detect such fitness plateaus and determine that increases in overall volume may be necessary to continue progressing?

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Yes and yes but not how you mean it.

Successfully doing a workout with 2min vo2 intervals would place you lower on the vo2 scale than doing a workout with 4min vo2 intervals. I’m sure the ML does take into account any data it has access to but having two days of rest would change the fact that you had completed the workout and progressed or regressed.

usually free if I provide training data for Machinelearning

Er, no. Wrong.

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It’s pointless to argue with him. I guess it’s not even about ML&AI, he simply wants a cheaper price. :person_facepalming:t2:

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is this picture a genuine coming TR feature? or from something else?

This way be dragons. Dial a workout up, complete it. Do you dial up the next one or not? People will do both things, and both groups will be unsure if they’re doing the right thing. :thinking:

Defining the goal is obviously paramount for Adaptive Training. In my case I have two goals, which may/may not be compatible, ie, road TT (20-40kms), secondly Olympic XC MTB. I’m sure I’m not the only one in such a situation. Are there more/less compatible goals, and hence determining the Adaptive training goal/plan?

Linked to this is does each event goal type have its own energy system progression !chart or map!? Hence, can one tweak this to deal with more than one goal?

Lastly why are you using these energy system parameters as opposed to the terms you use during the workout instructions, ie, Aerobic or Anaerobic - power/endurance/capacity, VO2Max and Muscular endurance?

it’s for sure an Excel chart. But it would be very easy to implement, and it should be a great source of motivation… at least for me :smile:

Your doctor should also treat you for free if you tell them your symptoms and fill out a patient questionnaire, after all you’re giving them the data they need to do their job so why should you have to pay? At the very least you should demand a discounted co-pay

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