Time will tell but i dont think this will be the case. AT is supposed to choose workouts tailored to your goals and abilities. I suspect this means it will push harder and harder until you fail and by power zone development level. The existing plans dont do this.
Bold communication strategy by the TR team. Last week the forum had an incredible amount of negativity, this week the mood is exuberant. Watched the first hour of the podcast twice and got the strong impression the team decided to wing it. It was very successful, at least in the short run. But the communication also had some really rough edges. Several times the team resorted to promoting new functionality by criticizing the current platform, comparing it to squats ‘crushing you’ and saying it was like a ‘bad time travel movie’ and ‘demotivating’ to use the current platform after having used adaptive training. That in combination with a phased roll-out and an undefined timeline makes for an explosive mixture.
No pressure R&D team…
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So your business podcast is really just us listening in on you getting schooled then? Well played.
The existing plans do push harder and harder, and progress you in zones. AT adapts to whether you succeed or fail, so will push less if you’re struggling or more if you’re finding it too easy.
Welcome to the forums by the way 
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Could the planned time off function be used to alter blocks i.e. to ride the wave of a strong block?
Example being: rest week is scheduled week four, you put planned time off week five, does the AT then understand you wouldn’t necessarily want two weeks off and extend your training block to suit.
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I had you beat by over 2 years, TR basically copied my idea and relabel it Train Now. I pretty much did all the work. I “demand” beta access now!
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For detecting overtraining can’t you see heart rate response during the training to the workout load? The way Garmin does at the start of workouts. Maybe keep recording heart rate after a workout to see it at rest?
Seriously.
A few points and questions I haven’t seen an answer yet @Nate_Pearson or @SeanHurley
- So does the ML redo it’s magic if I change the association of an outside ride (does it work with the “associate ride with” feature)?
- Or do I have to have a pre-planned workout at the time of uploading the outside workout? (In that case a workaround could be do delete the imported outside ride, then schedule an outside workout and then re-import again, correct?)
- Like 1x120min@90%? For some of us who follow some WKO principles (extensive aerobic)…
Last thought:
- Would be nice to easily see past Breakthrough/super passes
They distracted us…so much hype…the negativity will come once it is released.
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When you drop your $99 subscription in part due to burn-out.
Then TR comes out with Adaptive Training, but the price is now $189
#facepalm
I guess the only real option is to continue as a seasonal subscriber & re-evaluate next time a price rise comes around
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The reason I don’t plan on ever dropping TR unless I quit cycling is that the TR constantly focuses on improving the product. It might no come as fast as some people may want, but the TR product today (not including AT) is notably better than when I started using it 3 years ago.
So even if there are things I don’t like about it today, I stay subscribed because I trust they will improve. Even if you don’t like the plan, the workout library, calendar, forum and podcast are worth $99/year to me.
That’s how I look at it.
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@JesseFortson @SeanHurley @Nate_Pearson
A fun question and a more serious one:
Of workouts commonly found in TR plans, which ones have the highest failure rates (I have my guesses here)?
Also, shorter V02 intervals seem like an entirely different energy system than long V02 intervals. I can complete just about any TR V02 workout at 90s or less, but I fail pretty much all of them at 3min or more. I’m just concerned that it will have trouble progressing someone like me. Any perspective here?
Thanks!
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Every once in a while something comes up that I did not think I needed. I am cautiously optimistic that adaptive training is one of them. Thank you very much TR team for making this possible.
With that in mind I have a few questions.
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Well all the features be available on the iPad/iPhone apps or is this something that is only on the Desktop app in the beginning?
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are the workouts weighted? For example if one was to do avalanche spire and have a super pass but following that have two days of rest versus someone who does eclipse +3 and the next day does polar bear and both workouts are just a pass are those weighted differently?
I had one more question but I forgot what it was so I will ask it when I remember again. My biggest hope is that adaptive training will save me from myself. I tend to continue progressing my workouts to the point of overreaching and only realize on race day when it’s too late.
If a user is not able to continue building on their progressions (across the higher intensities) would AT be able to detect such fitness plateaus and determine that increases in overall volume may be necessary to continue progressing?
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Yes and yes but not how you mean it.
Successfully doing a workout with 2min vo2 intervals would place you lower on the vo2 scale than doing a workout with 4min vo2 intervals. I’m sure the ML does take into account any data it has access to but having two days of rest would change the fact that you had completed the workout and progressed or regressed.
usually free if I provide training data for Machinelearning
Er, no. Wrong.
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It’s pointless to argue with him. I guess it’s not even about ML&AI, he simply wants a cheaper price. 
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is this picture a genuine coming TR feature? or from something else?