That was regarding the AT program, not TN which is just a randomizer. If you spent half the time you do complaining about TR doing more training, you may be able to get past 300w 
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Quick question - apologize if already answered as this thread is already very long.
Let’s say AT learns that I’m a very strong sprinter, but not great at “tempo”.
And I select a workout that alternates between tempo and sprint efforts. Will it scale the tempo efforts and sprint efforts by two independent scaling factors so that the entire workout works as intended? Or does it just scale the entire workout by one scaling factor so that’s it’s achievable?
Or if there was some workout that involved 7 effort levels, could all 7 “levels” have their own independent scaling factors so each level within the workout was “challenged” appropriately?
As far as I understood it, AT won’t change anything below the 1-workout level. So I doubt there will be different scaling within a workout. But maybe that’ll come in the future?
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I totally agree with you.
Winter is ending soon in the Northern hemisphere and there’s a natural drop in subscribers around this time anyway. I’d also imagine there was a massive influx of new subs due to covid that are pretty flimsy as long term subscribers.
If anything the announcement was due to several heated threads on this forum. Not just Jylan.
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I can’t get past 299W and I don’t complain. Not fair. Wait…
Jylan Donson? Oh Long Johnson? 
I can’t understand why they do the last podcast and offer beta access to those that request it and don’t actually take anyone onboard aside from those already on it and those few that were already pre chosen. Its very disappointing. I expect we’ll wait weeks to get access.
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They applied the same basic approach for the Plan Builder rollout. Internal testing to small external beta testing and increase from there in beta before the “official” release. This seems headed in much the same direction.
As a guess, I think they do it this way in small, but increasing groups to conform function, find bugs, and strain the system to look for issues. That seems to help make the more official public release largely trouble free.
This is compared to other software releases I’ve seen go far and wide from the start that often hit many snags along the way.
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In the YouTube comments just before the podcast started, Nate himself said something along the lines of “if we announced we 'd found a cure for cancer, we’d still have 10% of users asking ‘but what about strokes?’”. I’m just glad they carry on nonetheless!
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@mcneese.chad Have you played with planbuilder within the auspices of AT yet? I assume it still asks you when your A and B events are. Is the rest of the experience similar? Do you still see milestones on your calendar clearly delineating the start of “Sustained Power Build Mid Volume” and “Rolling Road Race Specialty” and such? Or is it all just blended together now and adaptive?
All understandable however this was not mentioned in the podcast. The impression given was that they would accept subscribers who requested it yet they already had them chosen at that point.
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Yeah I think anyone on the internet should learn the lesson very quickly: you can’t please the haters 
and if you try you’ll just end up running in circles, rather than forward.
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I don’t know where this mentality comes from, because when I visited Canada I didn’t meet a single person with their toilet in their kitchen 
Yes, a bit of use.
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PB is essentially the same as before, with one major difference. There in an option to include and add time off. I haven’t tested it, but it is for things like vacation and other planned time without training.
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The time off can also be added after the PB is applied. You can add or remove TO and PB will adapt the plan to suit those changes.
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Yes, you still see the block annotations at each new phase step, and the weekly notes, just like before. And you can still override the volume and plan type like the current version.
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Interesting! Thank you for the info! This bolsters my hypothesis that if you hit 100% on almost all your workouts without a lot of skips/fails/turning down the intensity, the AT experience will actually be minimally different
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@Nate_Pearson Given I had no actual advanced knowledge of this release, but posted this four weeks ago, could I get priority access to the closed beta? 
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Same thing. The post workout survey will cover this and any other irregularity in the workout. You let it know it wasn’t due to intensity or some other factor and voila.
How will pee breaks factor into the adaptive training? Will their be an option to tell the system that I’m not tired, I just have a small bladder?
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It literally was mentioned in the podcast. Here’s a timestamp of Nate explaining the rollout would happen in phases:
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You give your reasons at the end of the workout.
Or practice race day like a triathlete 
you might want to put a towel on the floor or something
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