Reduce your FTP and dial up the higher level VO2 workouts 
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I am almost positive Nate said that they ignore both the warm up and cool down phases.
That older style “hack” (FTP drop / VO2 kick up) seems entirely counter to the point behind having 7 different Progression Levels.
I think the main point is to answer the survey appropriate to how you felt. If he actually gets the “Pass” Survey, and only was able to complete it with the help of dropping the Workout Intensity, I would say the 5 - All Out is the appropriate selection. Then answer the secondary survey and let AT determine if that should lead to future adaptations as needed.
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Thanks. I just finished and put too intense. I am sure that will help lower sweet spot. Then on my endurance I will put too easy.
Got through it and did not want to quit. We will see what happens. On polarized plan and so far I like it.
@mcneese.chad I am not sure if that is a pass survey but don’t think so. Regardless will keep working at it and putting in the appropriate responses. It is the long not the short term.
Yes, that is my understanding as well.
What Level VO2 workouts are you currently nailing?
(I think your response method is fine, I’m just curious as I’ve been learning more about my abilities by seeing the levels and looking at the new Workouts structures/intensity)
My levels are not really adjusted as of yet because I just started doing plans again (been TR sub for a long time) and was riding exclusively outside for the past month with my buddy at home. This week I started polarized HV 6 week plan and then I move onto the Polarized HV 8 week plan.
Will update in a few weeks to see how this adjusts my levels and the workouts based on my surveys.
Keep in mind, that even though we can hack the POL plans into AT, the adaptations are not refined enough to necessarily maintain the objectives and projections with respect to POL. So, keep an eye on suggested adaptations and you may want to ignore and manually swap in some cases.
Fair enough 
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From what I’ve seen mentioned, you’ll soon work out of your FTP is accurate with those polarised FTP workouts. Some of them look pretty tough 4x16 @ over FTP etc lol.
Good luck 
@mcneese.chad Makes sense and I am more of a Traditional Base plan person but since this is sort of “connected” to it I figured I would give it a go and make adjustments via alternates as I go along. First week and I am liking the plan and workouts that are in there moving forward.
@mailman The workouts in polarized are good for me as I get in the endurance stuff that I like and it is going to push me on the sweet spot efforts when I need to improve. For VO2 there are some in the plans but I primarily get them during my outside group rides as there are some guys that are really fast.
I did that just yesterday! Cumberland +2 worked for me. It’s a 12 min build up to 1 h at 90-95%. Finished ADZ with a few min of work to go.
Cumberland +2 is SS PL 9.2 and AT told me it was “Not Recommended.” Ha.
Have a look on the web. It may show up there.
Is it done somewhere? Maybe I misunderstand your comment. I thought this wasn’t an existing feature, and I think I’ve seen since my post that it’s in the backlog to be added eventually (Yay!) so my comment was more of a lazy feature request. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
AT’s got a few quirks, but at this point I think the quality is no worse than most other software that’s considered live production from other companies. I loving it.
Did you run and complete the workout as if it were any other indoor workout while concurrently running Zwift? Simply associating a Zwift ride or outdoor ride to the appropriate workout will not result in progression level changes as I previously mentioned above.
To get the progression changes, you’d have had to run the workout like you would any other indoor workout while also sending the power and cadence data to Zwift (but keeping the trainer control box empty so TR controls everything). I’m assuming this is what @jgthomas59 did.
Yes, exactly. I used ERG but you could turn that off to make it more like outdoors. My SS PL was bumped +4.7 to 9.2.
Props to TR for adding the (?) symbol in at least one ride survey that goes into more detail about what each survey option is meant to address. I expect that has made it to all the surveys (or will soon), and appreciate the quick access to clarification of the intended use.
Additionally, I have a possible suggestion. In the Struggle/Fail survey, there is an “Intensity” option. When you look at the additional info, it lists something like “The Intensity or Duration were more than I could handle…”. Considering the related selection is specifically “Intensity”, I am wondering if there should actually be a split here, where there is a separate choice for “Intensity” and “Duration”?
It may be splitting hairs, but I could see that there is a difference for riders between struggling from to high intensity, vs duration along the lines of time to exhaustion at an otherwise appropriate intensity. I have not pushed hard into the science behind these potential differences, and maybe there would be no practical difference in how TR handles any potential adaptations related to an actual Intensity struggle vs a Duration struggle, but I thought it was worth a mention at least.
Are any other athletes seeing these progressions for outsides rides with Wahoo? It was my understanding that there was a lever pulled for outside rides with Wahoo to now automatically be considered successful with a default “moderate” response however I am not seeing that on my end. Just did one this morning with no default response or progression.
Nate definitely said that was what they planned to do (Successful default), but I don’t know if they have actually implemented that at this time. I haven’t seen a TR rep confirm that function is in place yet (though I could have just missed it).
So another ? On approach. Doing 2 hr endurance workout currently. Have a work call 1:30 in. Should I just pause or save and finish after my 30 min call?? Easy spin and not struggling.
Thanks in advance.