Thanks! Did you get any progression at all?
I linked mine to unicorn 2 but no progression or score on the TR screen?
Have a look on the web. It may show up there.
Is it done somewhere? Maybe I misunderstand your comment. I thought this wasn’t an existing feature, and I think I’ve seen since my post that it’s in the backlog to be added eventually (Yay!) so my comment was more of a lazy feature request. Sorry if I wasn’t clear.
AT’s got a few quirks, but at this point I think the quality is no worse than most other software that’s considered live production from other companies. I loving it.
Did you run and complete the workout as if it were any other indoor workout while concurrently running Zwift? Simply associating a Zwift ride or outdoor ride to the appropriate workout will not result in progression level changes as I previously mentioned above.
To get the progression changes, you’d have had to run the workout like you would any other indoor workout while also sending the power and cadence data to Zwift (but keeping the trainer control box empty so TR controls everything). I’m assuming this is what @jgthomas59 did.
Yes, exactly. I used ERG but you could turn that off to make it more like outdoors. My SS PL was bumped +4.7 to 9.2.
Props to TR for adding the (?) symbol in at least one ride survey that goes into more detail about what each survey option is meant to address. I expect that has made it to all the surveys (or will soon), and appreciate the quick access to clarification of the intended use. ![]()
Additionally, I have a possible suggestion. In the Struggle/Fail survey, there is an “Intensity” option. When you look at the additional info, it lists something like “The Intensity or Duration were more than I could handle…”. Considering the related selection is specifically “Intensity”, I am wondering if there should actually be a split here, where there is a separate choice for “Intensity” and “Duration”?
It may be splitting hairs, but I could see that there is a difference for riders between struggling from to high intensity, vs duration along the lines of time to exhaustion at an otherwise appropriate intensity. I have not pushed hard into the science behind these potential differences, and maybe there would be no practical difference in how TR handles any potential adaptations related to an actual Intensity struggle vs a Duration struggle, but I thought it was worth a mention at least.
Are any other athletes seeing these progressions for outsides rides with Wahoo? It was my understanding that there was a lever pulled for outside rides with Wahoo to now automatically be considered successful with a default “moderate” response however I am not seeing that on my end. Just did one this morning with no default response or progression.
Nate definitely said that was what they planned to do (Successful default), but I don’t know if they have actually implemented that at this time. I haven’t seen a TR rep confirm that function is in place yet (though I could have just missed it).
So another ? On approach. Doing 2 hr endurance workout currently. Have a work call 1:30 in. Should I just pause or save and finish after my 30 min call?? Easy spin and not struggling.
Thanks in advance.
I’m assuming cut it short and answers the survey with Time as the reason you cut short. It should give you the full credit. At least, when I had a similar situation on an interval session it gave me full credit when I took that route.
Mmm ok. And then I guess I will ride the rest after my call
Or just skip the last 30 minutes of the workout and call the workout done for the day. There’s no way that will destroy your progression or plan if you skip it. It’s so minor in the grand scheme of things imo.
Get that. I wanted to put in 2 hrs today. Not worried about progression. Thank you
In that case, you could just free ride later or pick a 30-minute workout in the zone using Train Now or by looking through the workout list.
Those outside Wahoo workouts you’re doing are associating effectively, and showing the workout level (1.1 for example), but there’s no visible progression level footer for those activities. That is an indicator that this isn’t counting towards your Progession Levels.
Sorry for the confusion, its easy to look at that Workout Level number, the ‘TR’ stamp, and a successful association and think its counting towards your PLs. The feature of making all outside workouts as pass by default is still in process, close!
Just an update for anyone I let the workout pause and kept it open and connected. Went upstairs and did my call for 15 min. Came back down and continued. Upon finishing I got the survey on how it felt.
Obviously prefer not to do this but no worries and figure it is the same as stopping at a bunch of lights outside.
Hi. I’m currently in a UX design program. I thought it would be great to explore how TR provide a clean mobile experience for AT. FYI, I’m not in the beta group YET, so I’m pouring through the thread to try and pick up general themes. If anyone would be interested in connecting to answer a few questions, it would be hugely appreciated. Thanks, Mike, Seattle
I’ve always interpreted the “Intensity” to mean intensity for the target duration. At least for me, the only way I would use a “pure” intensity is if I couldn’t even hit the intensity. That is: if for example a TR workout wanted me to do 1,000 watts for 5 seconds, and I couldn’t even hit the 1,000 watts for a second.
Otherwise, if I can hit the intensity, it is then a question of: can I hold the target intensity for the target time period.
I just did a wahoo workout outside. On the web, I got the fail survey. I put I didn’t struggle then marked it moderate. I probably got the survey because of a couple road crossings or something.
But wait…. What did I miss? Progress on outside workouts now?
You got that “struggle” survey because that is still the default option. They have not made that change yet, if you were assuming it would be the “pass” survey.
Is that what you were wondering?
