I have been following AT for about 6 weeks now and have trusted all the adaptations and found the level of work achievable. What has been refreshing is not doing the same workouts all the time. No base block will look the same again as the adaptations occur which helps to keep things fresh as after a few cycles on the old plans it could get a bit stale and boring. It still worked but it has been good to unlock some of the other workouts that are available (which TrainNow also achieves).
This morning I wanted an extra SS workout. I have been in build so a lot of my work has been threshold so my SS progression level was down to 1.6 and temp down to 1.0.
I chose to do Mount Major which was not reccomended at 6.3 but it wasnt difficult at all because of all the threshold work I had done. My levels were only that low because I hadnt done a SS workout for about 4 weeks. I completed the workout without problems and my levels are now 6.3 for SS and 4.3 for Tempo.
I just feel that Threshold and SS are very close so if you are completing difficult (ish) threshold workouts then SS workouts wont tend to be difficult, and therefore the secondary progressions need to apply to the SS workouts when you are doing threshold.
Updates on Adaptive Training known issues and fixes for today, 5.10.21!
Number of Athletes in the Beta: 965
Newly Resolved issues:
Ride Details Page
FTP tests shouldn’t display an outcome classification
Surveys:
In mobile, the “I didn’t struggle with this workout” option isn’t working properly
Post Workout Surveys aren’t delivering the relevant education resources
Adaptations
Some athletes can experience “unnecessary” adaptations
Known Issues updated in OP and still viewable on the ‘Adaptive Training Known Issues’ Support Article).
As always, if you’re still experiencing an issue from the list above (or in the updated original post) that should be solved, contact support@trainerroad.com.
Thanks to all our athletes for your patience while that list of solved issues grows! Stoked on the team’s progress and momentum as we send out more invites.
Levels are cool now that I’ve had a chance to look at them. Always thought IF was a poor metric for some workouts especially Vo2 with longer breaks or cool downs which diluted the IF but not the hurt. Levels seem to put the work into perspective, these all have very similar IF but very different levels
Seeing the levels is great…now, when will we get to see what our TR computed ranking is in each zone? Is the plan to release that when AT goes live, or roll it out earlier?
As I understand it, that is already being used for TrainNow selection and recommendation of workouts.
Ok there’s something funky going on. Either the system is updating levels or there is a gremlin running loose.
A week ago when I changed my specialty phase from rolling road race to century it deleted everything starting from that day til the end of September when my 2nd planned even was. OK I replaced the speciality phase manually.
No when the levels are released to public I:
A) can see the levels on my iPhone when I log into the system through Chrome
B) can’t see the levels on iPad nor iPhone when using the app
C) see my speciality phase that was somehow deleted by the system a week ago also saw the manually entered Century speciality phase both on the iPad and iPhone.
D) can’t change the existing speciality phase to Century one on my iPad nor on my iPhone
E) can’t see the system deleted plan nor the new manually entered plan when i log in through Chrome on my iPad but see it when I log in through Chrome on my iPhone
It doesn’t look like you’re on the newest release for iOS yet, for the rest of those inquires though, please touch base with support@trainerroad.com so they can take a look! Apologies for the confusion.
Updated the iPad IOS and managed to get my training plan back…the initial one at least, but if I want to change the speciality then it shows me black screen and there is only option to update but no option to choose the new speciality to update to.
OK UPDATE.
Managed to get the plan back on when I log in through Chrome window, also I can see the update possibility but when I click for the update instead of speciality there is a build phase now
Well… that was disappointing Just took my ramp test after completing SS Base 1 using Adaptive Training and my FTP went down -3.
I am surprised in that I completed all workouts well, took each recommendation, and did the best I could on the day - but the results speak for themselves.
Other than wanting everyone to sympathize with me , I do think one of the promises of AT is that it should be able to tell me based on my workouts to date - did I perform as expected or was it just a bad day? I know that this was talked about somewhat in the initial announcement, but it isn’t something that I see in the current beta.
Any thoughts on when the “projected FTP capability” is planned? I am willing to have my record be a guinea pig if anyone in dev wants to look at it and see if my performance was in line with expectation or I just didn’t perform on the day.
What method or symbol are you expecting for this validation?
Essentially, if you see a “Successful” at the end of your workout, in the workout summary data, that is “good”. Your deeper performance beyond that simple summary, combined with your subjective response to the survey about the workout (Easy, Moderate, Hard, Very Hard, All Out) play into the progression that is given to your associated level. If you do well and answer on the easy end, I suspect the progression level change is large. The closer you get to Hard or All Out, I expect less change in progression level (little to no increase).
If you perform “badly”, you will get a “Struggle” survey instead. And depending on those factors above, you may see no change to your progression level, or they may even drop if something is off enough that AT thinks you need a reduction.
Have you seen those signals and considered them like this?
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Just took my ramp test after completing SS Base 1 using Adaptive Training and my FTP went down -3.
, I do think one of the promises of AT is that it should be able to tell me based on my workouts to date - did I perform as expected or was it just a bad day? I know that this was talked about somewhat in the initial announcement, but it isn’t something that I see in the current beta.