I follow a basic Tr plan mid volume but remove one day. Ride for 4 days a week . Age 60. Add in additional recovery as needed
How about fitness metrics - As a mature and well trained rider, you know what “good” will be for you and what to expect from training. Would guess you end up in a similar spot year on year when training well (?)
Any improvements in fitness, or progression to fitness, that you can credit to AT?
Not to put you on the spot, just curious if you see any difference between self-cooked 2:1 and AT brewed 3:1
just to continue on the whole RPE rating: I have done workouts where I nail it and my HR is around 160 at 90% and feel great, I’ve done workouts with the exact same conditions and I feel like garbage at the end. so the data doesn’t always capture everything and that’s a good reason the RPE rating can help as an additional layer
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Great question and I don’t mind trying to answer what I can. In short, it’s really too soon to tell. I have only been on AT since March 1, which started by completing the tail end of my Base. I did do a full 8-week Build (this is actually my final recovery week in that phase) via AT at the 3:1 and I felt good overall.
Notably, I did have some issues with AT in the 2nd half of my Build, because my Progression Levels got massively chopped in a way that I did not think was right or like. So I ended up with manual intervention, guided by PL’s and what I saw AT do in the first half. Importantly, I did screw up on a couple of workout picks that lead to struggles. Despite that partial mistake in the final week, I still did WAY better than if I had followed a default Build with the super nasty final work week.
All that said, here is a snap of the current season with season match compared to the prior 3 years. I have not had any real hard efforts beyond workouts, so I don’t see that as conclusive in any way.
Total:
Endurance, for easier viewing of what matters more to me:
You can see some real meat added in the 2-3 minute range. This was a personal focus and place where I manually swapped in some middle length VO2 (2-3 mins vs the 30/30 that TR wanted to add). Pretty much matched from 3 to 13 mins compared to last season, which was my best ever. And below on the tail end because I have not done any hard, longer efforts like I had already done at this time last year (Zwift Fondo “race” and the Haute Route that I “raced” as well).
Not sure if that helps, but I can try to answer more questions too.
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I’ve noticed that I have more consistent saving of the survey response if I leave TR running on my laptop for a while after finishing a workout rather than just closing it out, so that makes sense.
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Tnx Chad. Would hope to see folks continue to post progress as they complete blocks of work guided by AT.
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Same. In my work with TR support it seems like it takes >= 3 minutes after completing the ride for the survey response to save.
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Hi everyone, one question I used TR plan builder to prepare an 8 month training plan for an Ironman in late November as the only race in the year and I want to insert a very important Marathon “A” Race (Boston Marathon in October) does AT adjust the plan or it is only with bike races when it adjust your plan? (Just to mention I follow a different run plan than the one in the TR plans) and do not want to overload.
I would think the hope is that AT prevents that “sluggish” feeling. It’s probably not the three weeks of build, but rather the progressions that get you. If you tell it your week 2 workouts were hard, then it may dial back week 3 to something you won’t fail.
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I added an additional 1 hour endurance workout suggested by Train Now on Friday just because I did not find previous workout to be challenging enough and felt very fresh. What ended up happening is I immediately got an adaptation of Saturday’s workout, which knocked down sweet spot workout from 6.8 to 4.9. This might be intentional to keep weekly TSS consistent, but will be rejected as I don’t feel the need for easier workout.
Run this by support and see what they say. I’ve had an adaptation get “stuck” for a bit and leave a workout alone that should have changed, only to get triggered by a seemingly unrelated workout later. (I haven’t had any of my sessions knocked down to maintain weekly TSS when I’ve added extra.)
I’d appreciate some help here please…
I did my 1st AT ride today using a custom workout indoors. Stupidly I finished a couple of mins early in the cooldown and forgot to tell TR I’d finished and to save the session, before closing the laptop lid. The ride was also recorded on my Wahoo and uploaded to Strava and TR sync’d that into my Career, but as an outsie workout for some reason. (It was recorded as indoor on the Wahoo). As a result it obviously hasn’t taken anything into account on my progression levels, which is a shame as I had just updated my FTP and everything was obviously set at 1.0, and this was a ‘stretch’ threshold session according to TR.
Am I right in thinking there is a way to associate that workout with my planned workout and gain any recognition for it or has that ship sailed now? I’d just like to see if there’s a way to get credit for what was a solid effort that I would expect would have some impact on the AT algorythm. Obviously not the end of the world but as my first AT based session I’m kicking myself 
You might be right regarding “stuck” adaptation. Decrease from 6.8 to 4.9 is still above my current level for sweet spot, which is 4.7. Adding that extra workout probably triggered adaptation. I will still proceed with the original 6.8 as I’m quite confident I can manage it. Increasing my FTP number made levels way too low for me which I know is a problem for some.
Couldn’t you delete the wk out on your career page then have your TR app sync it?
the app doesnt show the workout at all except as an import from Strava - it looks like it deleted it when I forgot to confirm I wanted to save it after stopping
OK - I’ll wrap this up… Reading on the main AT thread it seems adaptions only come from workouts scheduled by Plan Builder, so currently AT is completely useless for me anyway. If we can’t use AT with outdoor rides and any kind of customised workouts and plans currently then I’ll just ignore it all until its fit for purpose.
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Ok. It is May. I’m still waiting for AT to be pushed to me. Requested inclusion a day after launch. How long until this goes wide? Figured three months was enough before getting impatient.
So the adaptive training system wanted me to do a 7.0 (Buffalo) today, glad I didn’t.
There’s value to knowing your own body and how you think you’ve been performing vs how you should be. I could have actually gone on far longer (and yes, I need an FTP test, I will do once I’ve done my event in a few weeks).
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You should probably pump the brakes and work on your patience. AT is far from polished atm so unless you like banging your head into the wall when a bug makes it useless for you or something it’s probably a better experience for you to wait until farther in the process
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