How are people getting 100g+ carbs in a bottle?

This is quite low on water. I consume 1 bottle per hour (22oz) with 90g of GU Roctane.

yep - its on the low side but right now those rides are typically z2 in cool/cold weather so I’m not finding any issues with that and we dont stop, so refills are a challenge!

As the weather warms and hydration becomes more of an issue I’ll be swapping to the 2 x 1L/32oz bottles and I suspect we’ll restart some pit stops as well, so a refill is easier to organise.

My challenge really is about these 6-7hr GF events where I will be reliant on food stop supplies. Experience tellms the options are always just water or very (over) diluted energy drink mix where organisers try and save money, so I like the idea of the super concentrate bottle to sip from and water top ups along the way in the other bottle.

@Dr_Alex_Harrison potentially a very stupid question, but a thought I’ve had for a while. Apart from how easy to it is to mix, is there any difference what type of sugar you use for sucrose? Basically, is there anything functionally different between white sugar, caster sugar or brown sugar (or any others)?

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Not stupid at all! I had the same question a while back.

White sugar and caster sugar are the same, assuming they both dissolve.

Brown sugar has molasses which probably isn’t optimal, but I haven’t looked into it specifically.

Powdered sugar is white sugar (crushed smaller), mixed with corn starch. Corn starch is not as easily digested/absorbed during exercise and should be avoided.

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It should be noted that there is only around 1 tablespoon of corn starch in a cup of table sugar prior to grinding or around 10g/200g. I wouldn’t necessarily go out of my way to not use it if it’s all I had around

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Oh! That’s good to know. I had mistakenly thought it was a much larger amount of corn starch. I would have little fear of using it if the 10g/200g ratio is true.

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Yea, I only know because my partner bakes alot and we often don’t keep powdered sugar on hand and you can easily make it with a blender. You can tell its pretty low since its the nonsugar component of the carbohydrates on the label as I’m sure you’re aware, ~1g/30g

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My wife is going to love you. We’re always running out of powdered sugar for baking projects. :laughing:

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In Sweden that would cost me about 8 dollars per water bottle if I were to use maple syrup :joy: that’s how expensive it is here for real Canadian maple syrup…

Step 1- Plant maple trees.
Step 2-Tap them in spring once theyve grown
Step 3- …
Step 4- Profit

If only it were that easy

@Dr_Alex_Harrison
Any thoughts of this product? I came across it today and curious on your thoughts. With all your contributions to the forum you’ve become to go to guy for questions like these :slight_smile:

You thinking for recovery post-workout? Or during ride?

Pre ride or first bottle is what the product is targeted for.
The claim of “better absorption” seems a little dubious

edit: ah well it says 6+hours preride. now that makes me even question it further. Is it just trying to make you retain water?

I suppose I could have read their blurb to figure that out. I skipped straight to the nutrition facts and ingredient list! :sweat_smile:

It would have the same effect as eating a sandwich that’s a little light on meat. haha

Nothing special. Just carbs and protein mixed together. Not enough sodium to positively influence hydration.

Yeah they also linked a paper about Resistant Starches working as a prebiotic in your gut that helps with water absorption.

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eyeroll

If you’re not absorbing water in your gut, drink another 4oz of fluid and you’ll be fine. If that doesn’t work, go to the hospital.

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Is there a difference in consuming sugar in solution vs in “harder” form? I do wonder about GI issues that many people get (no personal experience, but I don’t think I’ve really pushed the limit with high-sugar drinks). I’m really just wondering because I can easily eat a bag of Haribo (or similar) sweets in less than an hour, and they are around 80-90g carbs / 100g. A bag is between 150-200g. No issues with eating 200g, ie 180g carbs, in less than an hour. Is the problems the added water in drinks? Or do the gummy sweets just take longer to digest, so even if I eat them in an hour, I don’t actually end up with all of them digested in an hour?

The gummy bears are taking longer to break down and pulling water into your stomach/gut to process before they can be absorbed(assuming you aren’t drinking the same amount as the sugar water). I don’t know the exact timing but you likely wouldn’t be able to hit 90g/hour with gummy bears hours on end as they will slowly start to accumulate and require more and more water to digest. Also eating 200g on the couch is not the same as on the bike, I buy the little mini packs of haribo around Halloween and that is the most I can scarf down at a time on the bike while moving

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Yeah, maybe they accumulate. But I can easily eat a big bag of Giant Strawberrys for example on the bike, so its not just on the couch. To be fair the most I’ve eaten in total is two bags of sweets like that, over the course of a maybe 6 hour ride, so wouldn’t have pushed up against the carb digestion limits. Though it never feels like that would be a problem, I have to pace myself or I’d scoff them all early on. :joy:

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I don’t know about the strawberry ones but a whole bag of haribo gummy bears is only 60g of sugar so you’d need to eat 9 bags during that ride haha.

While we are on the topic of gummy bears these are the best ones ever