So you have to use a garmin product to get training status and effect?
Sorry. My mistake. That’s how mine works too. I run side by side to get the Training Effect from Garmin and then have to copy paste the TR Ride name and mileage into the Garmin, and then delete the TR one.
Yeah, when I talked to them about the shortcomings last year, they acknowledged it wasn’t going to cover every aspect/detail. They basically said rather than try and boil the ocean and never ship something, they were going to aim for the big-ticket items most people wanted (namely, training load and training status). And then over time work back in how to get the other elements in there too.
This seems like one of those things that on the surface sounds simple, but the deeper one dug into it with all the devices Garmin has made over the years (as well as how this actually gets processed device-side rather than service-side), it got incredibly complex incredibly quick with edge cases.
So I’m kinda glad they’ve stopped trying to boil the ocean - as I’ve found it’s constantly led Garmin to fall behind in certain areas, rather than just picking a line in the sand that solves it for a large chunk of people and accomplishing it. My two cents…
(Note: None of that excuses when things don’t work, as it also has semi-recently on and off.)
Same for me. I’ve dual recorded (and triple with Zwift) since I got my 935 and started with the Training Status tracking–it’s a long engrained habit now.
I do find some slight differences between my 935 and my Edge 530 in their tracking even being “synced” with Physio TrueUp, which I’m guessing would happen with the TR synced rides as well.
I do the same thing.
It’s funny how many of us do the exact same thing.
I dual record TR with my Fenix 6s (but use a Scosche Rhythm because I don’t trust wrist HR). My TrainerRoad data is pushed to Garmin Connect, where it sits alongside my Fenix recorded data for about a minute while I unbuckle my shoes.
As long as both sets of data are within a blip-or-two of each order, I delete the TrainerRoad workout from Garmin and just rename my Fenix data on Garmin accordingly. I like seeing stuff like respiration, temperature, etc.
For example, today I recorded
Garmin: AP 183W, NP 216W, Cadence 98, kCal 661 for 1:00:01
TrainerRoad: AP 183, NP 214W, Cadence 98, kCal 659 for 1:00:00
Honestly, that’s close enough for a middle-age hack who bikes just for fun. I prefer the Garmin ecosystem, so that’s why I keep everything there.
And yeah, I do mostly believe Garmin’s Training Status and TrainingEffect.
I find the training status calculation quite random and am surprised that folks here take it seriously. Training load and effect is a different story, can be quite helpful. But training status just seems to pop out one or another analysis rather surprisingly. Maybe I just dont get it right.
Does pausing this function in the edge actually mean that training load and effect are not collected as well?
For me it’s about the high level - is Garmin getting everything it needs to be consistent with a Garmin recorded session. As a user I shouldn’t need to know the minutia or figure out the impact - either it is or it isn’t. And because it isnt I will stick with dual record.
I get Rays point about speed to market but how many Garmin users know or care the difference between one feature and another? The take away is simply that some data is shared/ some features work but not all.
This also means that there is unlikely to be any longevity to it when true synchronicity is achieved.
For me the training status “metric” (I use that term very advisedly) is next to useless. With the same training load, and all rides done on the same device with the same syncing between Garmin, Strava, etc. I’ll get wildly varying figures for rest required. I’m not just talking an hour or two difference but things like a five hour ride recommending 24hrs rest and a one hour recovery ride leading to a recommendation of 48hrs rest!
Then if I set off on a ride within that recommended recovery period the unit starts with something like “recovery needed” then after fifteen minutes it will go to “Recovery good”
Hang on! If I need 48hrs recovery then I shouldn’t be getting “Recovery good” during that time.
Just curious. What Garmin are you using?
Edge 520
Well, I was, it’s currently fubarred and won’t boot ![]()
I now put training status on pause. my edge is still showing me training load and effect… this is all I need I guess
So many metrics LOL, recovery advisor is separate from training status. My 520 didn’t offer a lot of metrics IIRC. My 530 provides more metrics, and many are only useful as trends such as VO2max trends and Training Status trends. On a per workout basis, after a ride I ignore the Recovery Advisor (unrealistically conservative) and then quickly review Performance Condition and Training Effect (aerobic/anaerobic impact, and the intended impact on base, tempo, threshold).
If I remember right on one of my first rides back after a 5week break due to an op, after a 2.5miles ride through a park with a perceived effort of 0.1 it suggested 6.5day to recover ![]()
and… did you follow this suggestion? 6 days of hammock mode? ![]()
how jealous I am: I never get such suggestions to relax… the edge always forces me back on the bike after 18h… ![]()
I think I cycled 40miles at circa 20mph (albeit flat) immediately after a 5 or 10min break to wait for others to turn up ![]()
Garmin noob here as of Thursday’s purchase of a 745, really like it but am trying to understand how all of these data are supposed to line up. I’ve manually uploaded a few TR rides and some outdoor rides that were recorded with my ELMNT Roam. I assumed that training metrics wouldn’t come over from these since they’re historical, especially those recorded on Roam. HR, Power, Cadence all came over in both cases.
Today, I completed Hubbard and added 20 minutes Endurance at the end. Ride came right over with all of the data but no training effect or load. In My Day on Connect I don’t have Training Status even though it is selected to appear.
On the 745 in the Training Status widget it says “Use for 1W” which I assume means that it needs to calibrate. That said, in the History widget I see green bars for the rides that I manually uploaded and today’s ride. Is it just calibrating load?
I didn’t get any Intensity Minutes, Calories are pretty close, HR nowhere near; Connect says my max for the day is 119. Wish I could be at that HR at 320 watts.
What am I missing here or is this the way it is? Really would rather not double record but am super interested in the Body Battery metric and Training Status.
For anyone who isn’t getting training status for indoor rides, this article might have answered our question. The way this reads, you still need to record two workouts per week on the device.
Since GC doesn’t play with Apple Health and Strava does, I run stuff thru there.
But I do my planning thru TrainingPeaks so I’m all over the place.
I never get training status on any TrainerRoad rides on my Fenix 5 Plus. I did for a short time when it launched but since it stopped I’ve never managed to get it back and I have 5 TR workouts a week. I’m now back dual recording constantly.