Edge 1050 indoor can’t get distance AND cycling dynamics

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I recently purchased a 1050 to replace an Explore 2. I made the switch because the Explore didn’t have any training options or way to get workouts from TR onto the device for outdoor rides, didn’t have trading load and just generally seemed to be missing features that I wanted.

Prior to having the 1050 I used to dual record my indoor rides on TR (phone) and my Garmin Instinct 2 watch, for outside the Explore and my watch. With the watch when I would record indoor rides/workouts I had the Kickr Core trainer, Assioma mx pedals, and HR monitor paired. This worked without any issue. I got power and pedal metrics from the pedals and got distance from the trainer while my phone would run TR with the same sensors connected and would control the trainer in ERG mode.

I tried to set up the edge the same way, but I was getting power fluctuations where it seemed the 1050 kept trying to take erg control and dropping my power. I never had this problem with recording on my watch. I read that I should pair the Kickr as a power meter instead of a trainer. So I tried that.

Now the problem is that while I am getting distance and speed (don’t care about speed really but think they go hand in hand), I’m no longer getting the cycling dynamics. If I just pair the pedals as a power source with no trainer connected at all, I don’t get distance despite there being power and cadence from the pedals. I have read the Kickr doesn’t broadcast speed or distance and that this is determined by the 1050 so not sure if that is false, or I just don’t have something setup correctly.

I want to know the distance because I enjoy the dumb challenges in Garmin. I know a lot of people don’t care for all that stuff in Garmin, but it can make the difference between me having the motivation of doing some extra rides. I also like the pedal metrics while those are also not super important I enjoy seeing how much I am in or out of the saddle, pedal smoothness etc.

Does anyone have the same or similar setup that they are able to guide me on what I am missing to get everything working fluidly together?

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I’m rehabbing my foot. This is a 30 min ride.
TR controlling the kickr. Info sent to Garmin. As you see it has all 3 metrics. I believe TR sees the kickr as a trainer.

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Right, I have TR on my phone with the Kickr paired as a Trainer via Bluetooth. I have the Kickr paired to the 1050 via Ant as a power meter. When I do that my edge can’t be paired to my pedals because it can’t pair to two power meters, so I don’t get the cycling dynamics. Is there a way to also get the cycling dynamics (LR balance, power phase, smoothness)?

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If your kickr is paired to your phone via TR, I see no reason your can’t pair your pedals to your Garmin. You will be dual recording your workout.

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If I pair the pedals to the 1050 instead of the Kickr I don’t get distance on Garmin.

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If anyone finds this. I set the 1050 up with the pedals as the power meter, the kicker as a trainer. Both connected through ant+. Trick was to set the trainer grade to 0 on the 1050.

Start TR workout on phone, power doesn’t surge with both fighting to control the erg.

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Right. There is no real distance on a trainer in any case. A pseudo distance can be inferred from wheel revolutions which is what a trainer can provide. The Garmin, only getting power and cadence, can’t and doesn’t show any distance. Apps like ZWIFT will use power and other factors like your weight and compute some speed and distance in their virtual world based on that. In the end, for training and fitness purposes, all that matters is power, duration, and to a lesser extent cadence. Any indoor speed or distance is fake.

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the Kickr can be set to report a more realistic distance based on power rather than revolutions if you turn the option on in the wahoo app settings - confusingly called “ERG mode speed simulation”.

I find that it pretty closly aligns with distances logged on Zwift on a flat course.