Lol, I mis read it in bed last night without my glasses. I thought it said ‘designed to be specifically UCI legal’. I missed the il bit 
I don’t think Rule 28 ever envisaged it not being that. Doesn’t make it any less interesting though, especially as they publish their testing data. 23W saving over the poor performing skin suit, 4.5w over the best. From their test data it’s interesting the E1 suit is no better than jersey and shorts. Something I’ve found with one of my old club skin suits (all those 4th places that could have been something else!). What does surprise me about their data was only 4.5w over the next best - considering this is a major alteration of the suit shape, it goes to show how sophisticated the top suits are with respect to material selection and seam placement.
As for looking cool? I don’t think it really matters if you’re turning up to a dual carriage way lay-by at 6am on a Sunday morning, followed by tea and cake at a musty village hall. These aren’t hotbeds of fashion to start with.
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@Dr_Alex_Harrison - I saw this video and thought it might be useful in terms of bike setup for 24h. There are a series of videos by the same guy that document the event, plus a wrap-up video.
His 24 hour cycling time trial setup! (Bike/ Nutrition/ Clothing) - YouTube
No, unless you are racing Nationals or a UCI-sanctioned event, UCI regs do not apply in the US AFAIK. I have raced multiple TT’s with my Shiv TT Nosecone w/ a wheel cover and never had an issue.
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Power13 is correct….
Only Nationals or National level races have a jig. Our State Championship rules are open. Ironically most all of the fastest times are set on bikes that would be UCI legal.
Okay, I was basing this off TR podcast, where they report taking place in state or even district champs and setting up their rigs according to UCI. No one ever tests it, but apparently, they could (and would if you win/ set records).
Maybe they have to adhere to it at the Cat. 1 level, I don’t know…but for the overwhelming majority of licensed racers, UCI regs do not apply…even for State or District championships. It isn’t a question of them not checking, it simply doesn’t apply.
Fair enough, I was only assuming.
So I started this thread a while back and have gained a lot of insight from you all. Awesome.
I have made quite a few positional changes with my TT bike, new helmet and full skin suit. It’s looked good on the trainer but it was good to see a photo from an event this weekend. Didn’t feel like I needed to shuffle around etc. Felt locked in. !
So thanks to all the knowledge being shared
To compare to my previous position
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Not that surprising though - probably more like that the fastest times are set by riders on uci legal bikes. Because if you’re that fast, you’ll also ride uci-regulated events, and you wouldn’t have a non-uci legal bike just to set faster times in smaller competitions.
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MUCH better!!
Your head is lower and your hands are up, which helps break the wind around your face. Another great example of how going out instead of down actually helps get you lower.
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I agree - and although the camera shot is from a different angle, it looks like the slope of your lower back is also improved. Well done, mate!
Would be interesting to know how much further forward you moved to achieve this? And was moving your aero bars/elbow pads forward enough in itself, or did you consciously have to think about your shoulders and head?
I have made some changes but not stretching the front out.
I have dropped the front and saddle so overall I’m much more compact.
Saddle moved back
15degree angle wedge in risers
Extentions shortened
The 15 degree is what made the big difference in locking my elbows in and allowing my upper back to drop. Yes I am conscious about shrugging but in my old position I just couldn’t. I do drills thinking like a tortoise coming out of shell. Stretch then raise eyes.
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Ding, ding, ding!!!
I always had a bit of a “carriage return” on my TT / Tri bike…but once I angled my bars up ~10*, I was completely locked in. That, in turn, allowed me to relax my back more, which let me collapse my shoulders together, lowering my head even further.
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A massive change of direction, at least 180deg 
I’m no expert but it looks like your new helmet suits your position in a nice streamlined way 
Thank you!
I don’t think it even applies at the cat 1 level. My wife and I don’t even consider changing her bike to meet UCI regs until we’re approaching Nationals or a major race like Redlands or Joe Martin. She has it in full-on tri position all season.
I think there was a group of folks attempting to pool money together for this on SlowTwitch since a few of them have wind tunnel access. I believe they did this before and it was really telling. Maybe 10 years ago. Don’t quote me. I don’t know what came of it but I think they didn’t get enough pledges of support this go round to make it happen.
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They tested 4 or 5 of the latest super frames and I think it was about 4 years ago….Cervelo P5x, Diamondback Andean, TriRig Omni and a few others I think.
It was just when I stopped visiting ST so I don’t know what the results were, but I think all tested pretty fast.
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Roger that!
I think the people with that knowledge would be the aero testing companies who are doing a fairly high volume of different disciplines and riders. My feeling is that it, like most things depends, type of event and ability to contort into a position. I’m guessing that any changes in the bike get fairly quickly minimalist once you put a non WT race weight rider on it 
. You probably could get a list from them if you asked nicely i.e. these 3 frames will always be good.
Any tips how to setup ISM PN 3.1 similar to Fizik Mistica(regular)? Currently ISM is set up around 1 cm lower, nose down 2 degrees, similar setback. It has been way more comfortable but it’s a real struggle to hit any kind of power.
I kind of feel I should sit way more forward on it and somehow limit my hip angle closing/shifting my position forward.
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