All cycling-specific Build phase training plans have been improved to fall in line with the newly revised Base plans and be more specific to a rider’s performance goals.
What’s New
Coach Chad has revamped all Build phase training plans (this does not include triathlon plans) for riders who have completed their Base training and are ready to take the next step in achieving a more specific type of fitness. These plans include Sustained Power Build, Short Power Build and General Build.
Consistent with all of Coach Chad’s training plans, each 8-week Build plan is offered in three volumes. All newly revamped low-volume Build plans have a total of three interval workouts a week. All mid-volume Build plans include five workouts a week, one of which is an easy endurance workout. Finally, all high-volume plans consist of six workouts a week, two of which are easy endurance rides.
To fall In line with the newly revised Sweet Spot Base plans, Coach Chad revised the TSS of the newly revamped Build plans. Entry for the low-volume plans is about 300 TSS per week, whereas the mid-volume plans enter at around 450 TSS per week and the high-volume plans start off at about 600 TSS per week.
What to Expect
After you’ve completed your Base phase training plan — be that the legacy Sweet Spot Base plan or the newly updated Sweet Spot Base plan — your FTP is going to be higher at the end of your plan than when you started. Your fitness test scheduled at the start of your Build plan will give you insight into how much you’ve improved.
Whether your fitness has improved marginally or significantly, expect the first one to two weeks on your Build plan to be challenging, but manageable due to the slightly lower weekly TSS the new Build plans begin with.
Why TSS Decreases from Your Base Plan to Your Build Plan
When moving from plan to plan, you cannot simply look at TSS increases — you also have to consider the sort of stress included in each one of your workouts. That said, if you’re coming out of a Sweet Spot Base plan — a plan that consists almost entirely of Sweet Spot work — there is a lot of stress. To keep TSS climbing would be inadvisable and unrealistic. Again, considering different forms of stress matters here.
To account for the new types of stress (VO2max, anaerobic, etc.) you’ll experience in your Build phase of training, Coach Chad designed each new Build plan to have a decline in TSS during the first week. Then, during week 5, this decrease is more subtle in some plans, almost nonexistent in others. These two weeks are assessment weeks and therefore the TSS might be on the lower side due to the lower TSS value that goes along with your shorter assessment workout. In some instances, this has been accounted for in one of that week’s later workouts.
How to Get Started on a New Build Plan
If you’ve recently started (before March 20, 2017) a legacy Build plan and would like to update your plan to one of the new Build plans, you must stop your current plan and reselect the Build plan you were on to access the new updates.
If you’d like to update your new plan with completed workouts from your past Build plan, you must unassign the workouts from your past plan in order to assign them to the new plan. It’s recommended to delete your original plan to disassociate all your completed rides. This will allow you to more quickly assign those completed rides to your new plan.
What’s Next
Stay tuned for newly revised Speciality plans! Coach Chad is currently working on refinements to all Speciality phase training plans to fall in line with the recently updated Base and Build plans.
Have a question about the latest training plans update? Leave it below or send our support team a message to support@trainerroad.com.
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Is there any way to access the old legacy plans? These were made up of predominantly 1hr rides which worked perfectly for me as a pre work morning workout. 90 minutes for many of these workouts is not feasable for me.
Was just about to start a rebuild plan and was dissappointed to see the new workout durations.
Thanks
I would second that
Also, having made a 30 watt increase over SS base mid, i have tried 2 times to complete base and hit the wall half way through. I’m not alone either, I have encouraged a few in our club to try TR and some have had the same issue (even their FTP has dropped half way through build) and some have even dropped the plans altogether and choose workouts ad hoc instead, not ideal I know.
Therefore longer build workouts are not going to work for some people. Personally I believe the big sell for TR is SS Base, as that is what the majority will do due to time constraints, and this is where the biggest gains will be due to the nature of the workouts, which are effectively like build sessions come the second phase. Maybe do-able for those with low life stress and younger I guess. But at 52 I’m looking forward to seeing the masters plans, or using the custom workout creator to adjust
Still, a great concept though, so it’s not a case of showing disrespect
Andrew, these are valid concerns and something we’re very keen on addressing. The Masters plans are in the works and we’re looking forward to getting that out for all Masters athletes to enjoy ASAP.
Thank you for your feedback.
Nick, thank you for your response. I actually meant to say ‘I tried 2 times to complete build’ – base was fine and I achieved a 30 watt increase. The first time was using short power (mid), made it to the first recovery week and then couldn’t even manage the test, even after a recovery/easy week. I rested another 4 days and re-started using sustained power (mid), and the same thing happened. I know of two others we are following the same plans and the same has happened to them, so I’m not alone. To put it in perspective, we did a 300 mile ride in 19 hours last year, so its not like we are lightweights
Personally I think the second 6 weeks of base is more like a build, due to the nature of the sessions and the amount of hard sessions, and then when we went to build it is more like a peak, as suggested by only being able to hold it for a few weeks. It suggested we needed to back off at that point with some sweet spot work for a few weeks
Maybe it is an age issue, therefore I look forward to the masters plans, which I hope have a full run through of base, build and peak with recovery weeks possibly every 3 rd week instead of 4th week. Just my observations and realise it is different for others and therefore hard to nail it to suit everyone
I still think it is a great product. We just have to take responsibility to adjust to our needs
Very welcome Andrew.
I gotcha. It sounds like the fatigue from SSB caught up with you when the training began to pick up in the Build phase. It could also be that the mid volume was throwing a bit too much at ya in too short of timeframe. In any case, your individual rate of adaptation may not perfectly align with the way certain plans are structured. In the meantime of us finishing up the Master’s plan, try to structure your training how you already envision those plans to be structured. For example, you mention you’d like to see recovery weeks at every 3rd week—feel free to train like this with the current plans. You’ll just need to do a bit of adjusting on your end. 🙂 It’s not uncommon for a Master’s athlete to make their 7-day training week turn into a 9- or 10-day week to include extra recovery.
When we hit the proverbial wall of consistent training, it’s nearly always more recovery that our bodies need.
On the topic of your view of the Base plans, there’s no doubt this approach introduces more intensity than traditional base plans do. Subsequently, users often “build” there FTP in this process, while also establishing the proper base that will be further expanded upon in the actual Build phase. It’s not uncommon for athletes to see minor increases in FTP in a traditional base approach. With that logic, you could think of our Sweet Spot Base plans as incorporating a bit of a build approach into it as well.
Thanks again for your input here!
I also have to second that.
I could do an hour pretty much every week day in the morning but simply can’t get up any earlier than 5am to extend this without suffering poor recovery outcomes.
These will not work for me as they stand today. Not totally sure how I will proceed when I go back to build. I’m using TR for the plans and structure.
Agreed… Its a bummer the workouts lengthened. Therefore, I’m not going to update my current plan to the new plan. The 60min workouts are far better for my schedule because I typically ride on my lunch hour.
One workaround would be to go to Career > View Plan History. Then, re-create your older legacy training plan by using one of your completed plans as a guide. The workouts should still be in the library.
Take a look at our reply to Robert when you get a sec. It’ll help you switch some of those longer in-week workouts around to best fit your time availability.
Please let us know if you run into any other questions or concerns.
Thanks!
Yeah I guess that works. I guess you are also hoping users will be willing to do a bunch of work to customize every ride in every week of the plan and figure out substitutes where no short version exists and assign every workout after completion.
Not super user focussed. Really not possible to offer the time crunched version?
We certainly don’t want our users to be plagued with extra work, but we also want to make sure to deliver on our Head Coach’s changes that he’s confident will make everyone even faster than before. 🙂
For now, those who prefer shorter workouts on certain days will need to find alternates that best suit your time availability. We would love to be notified of any workouts users find that don’t have that easy “base name” or “-1” substitute so we can create one to make things easier for everyone.
We do have plans to release a tool that will allow you to schedule these workouts in advance yourself. So you won’t have to worry about fiddling around in the morning if that presents itself as an issue. No ETA just yet but we’ll keep everyone up-to-speed.
We appreciate your feedback and hope you understand. Thanks!
Hi Robert,
We can promise you that these plan revisions have been made with the sole intention of making you a faster cyclist in the most efficient manner possible. But we also want riders to know their training plans are flexible too!
Although you won’t be able to access the legacy versions of the build plans, you have complete access to 60-minute workout versions of the 75-minute workouts that might challenge your time availability. A majority of 75-minute workouts are variations of 60-minute workouts indicated by a “+1” next to the workout name. If you’d prefer 60-minute versions of the in-week workouts, find the base workout version without the +1. You may also find a 75-minute workout without a “+1”. In that case, you’ll find its shorter 60-minute counterpart by searching a “-1” next to it.
We really appreciate you feedback here, Robert.
Please don’t hesitate to let us know if you run into any other questions or concerns in making sure your plan best fits your schedule. Thanks!
Hi Nick,
Thanks for coming back to me.
I dont want to sound unappreciative as I do acknowledge the work that you guys put into these plans and the intention of making us stronger riders but the extra time midweek is a negative and it is sad to see the old plans go. I personally have seen great power and fitness gains on those plans I can see how you can change the workouts manually but it would be nice to not have to do that as with the old plans as its just an extra layer of faff between me waking up and getting on with the session in the morning.
I am, as along with many other people I am sure, very time crunched in the mornings but it remains my sole time to dedicate to training without pressure of family and work.
If you were able to list the old plans for use that would be great. I remember that the old version of trainer roads interface used to let you choose older plans in the drop down menu.
Additionally, in your workout search functionality – would it be possible to add a filter to search by TSS score? That would make finding substitutions for workouts that don’t have a -1 available easier.
Thanks for all your hard work.
R
You’re welcome Robert.
I understand your concern. We know athletes have see improvements using the legacy plans, but we wanted to make them that much more specific. Like it was mentioned to “Echowonder”, we don’t want to add any extra faff to anyone’s morning. But we do want to move forward with the changes our Head Coach is confident will help cyclists become faster riders.
I’ve relayed your TSS filter search functionality idea to the team and am awaiting feedback. 🙂
We really do appreciate your input!
Hey Nick… Thanks for the quick response and the great suggestion on how to easily shorten the duration of workouts. Thanks for the excellent product and support!
Much appreciated Trey!
Happy training, and ride hard!
Just wanted to add my 2 cents and maybe it will help someone else. I’m in week 6 of the mid-volume sustained power build so I’ve decided to finish the current plan, but tweak it a little. I struggle with the 2 and 2+ hour trainer workouts so I’m probably going to replace those long trainer workouts in the current plan with the shorter workouts in the new plan (the higher TSS on those workouts are okay for me).
Thanks, TR, for all the work you guys are doing. It’s definitely making a big difference for this old dude and I’m also looking forward to the masters plans.
Thanks for the feedback Tony!
Hi, I have concerns similar to those of Robert, but in addition to that I must say that it is truly sad to see that the General builds and Short Power builds are 75% the same workouts. (am looking at high volume)
They used to be very different in nature, much to the liking of most TR users I know, now it is a wash between the two… It seems not only lazy, but also in contradiction of their claimed specificities.
I know you will say that “We can promise you that these plan revisions have been made with the sole intention of making you a faster cyclist in the most efficient manner possible.” however what made TR different was the personalized choice we had in what we “took from the menu”, that does not seem to be the case anymore and devalues TR immensely.
So, pls leave the old plans accessible as legacy plans, what you did to the base plans by making all the workouts pretty much the same went in the same direction and was catastrophic in terms of motivation for quite a few users of TR.
Please give us the real choice back instead of forcing us to use these copy / paste plans.
Reply/statement much appreciated.
Hi Fisao,
This was certainly unintentional and I’m not sure how I carried that mistake all the way into the finished product. Variety in the workouts is of the utmost importance to me (for a number of reasons) and I think that my workout catalog demonstrates this. So forgive my error and thanks for catching it! I’ll be correcting the Short Power High Volume plan in the morning and the updates will crop up sometime later in the day tomorrow. Next time, I’ll do some side-by-side comparisons to make sure that each plan, all 3 volumes, is exactly as I intended before I pull the trigger on releasing them.
Hi Chad,
thank you very much for replying so quickly to my concern, that is amazing news and you just made my day!
Also a big thank you for all the work in general and the kick ass podcasts!
Can you look at this too with the similar nature of the mid volume General build and short power build?
Thanks!
Hey Christopher,
These were the plans that were adjusted. Take a look when you get a chance. 🙂
Thanks!
edit: I misread your comment Christopher. My apologies! The overlap noticed between the two plans in the mid-volume version was intentional. That high volume version was the version that was fixed.
Hi Trainerroad team, this is a follow up to my query from a few weeks ago when you rolled the new plans out.
At the time I remarked that the high volume general build and high volume short power build were virtually the same. Chad was very reactive and the very next day replied and changed the plans, as the then published plans were not the ones intended to be the final versions. (see the short exchange above) and indeed put up plans that were very different in the workouts chosen.
Now I am contacting you again to tell you that the very same problem that I had pointed out for the high volume plans seems to be present in the respective mid volume build plans. By that I mean that the General build mid vol plan and short power mid vol plan are virtually the same and given Chad’s reply last time, I am pretty sure that that is NOT as intended and not in the spirit of either plan or stated purpose of each.
Nick Kanwetz from your team said that they were addressed, but given the very high number of exact same workouts, I am pretty sure that is not the case.
example: first 3 weeks: per week only 1 (ONE) workout is different.
Could you please look into that again and get back to me (us) please?
PS: as I am only looking at these since they are the ones I am interested in, I have not checked all the other plans for similar problems.
Thank you for any reply !
fisao, an otherwise very happy Trainerroad customer
Hi Fisao,
Thanks for getting back in touch with us with your concerns.
The overlap is intentional between Short and Sustained Power Build plans as there are similar adaptations that athletes intend to achieve for both abilities. It’ll be the first 4 weeks that the overlap is the most evident. 🙂
Loop us in at support@trainerroad.com if you run into any other question or concerns. Thanks again!
Suggestion: when you pick a plan attach a date and version number so when you revise a program you know which one you did/are doing (like with software versioning). I believe I think I’m on the new Build but no way to tell for sure other then it is dated 20 March.
Thanks for the feedback Bob!
We’re looking into how exactly we’d like to do this moving forward.
To see if you’re on the old or new plan, cross-check the plan you see on your career with the Build plan from the Training Plans section of the website.
Please let us know at support@trainerroad.com if you have any issues getting this done.
Thanks again
In addition to many of the comments below, which I echo, the change in mid volume for General Build, from 4 rides/week to 5 rides/week (plus the addition of longer rides), makes sticking to the new General Build mid unlikely. The benefits over the old General Build mid would have to be considerable, and even then I’m not sure I can commit that many days, and, as Robert noted, that much time. (Note, instead of racing, my goals are simply to get stronger, something near 3 watts/kg, above my current 2.5-2.6 Watts/kg.) I’m starting week two of the old General Build mid. Would you recommend (a) continuing on that older program, with the 4 structured rides per week or (b) doing the new General Build low, with the structured 3 rides, and adding a 4 ride per week. And if (b), which types of rides should I add – merely look to pluck one with sufficient TSS from the new General Build mid or something else? Excellent product! Excellent podcast, which I hope to submit a question to eventually.
Hi Paul,
You can only do what your schedule, and more importantly your body, allows. So trim the plan as necessary anytime a concern arises. I’d far rather have riders err on the side of too little training than too much. Too little usually still yields desirable results, they’re just a bit blunted. But too much… usually the beginning of a discouraging, unhealthy cycle.
Just stick with the Build plan you’re on. Those are still solid plans and will still make you faster (especially if they don’t run you into the ground ;-). Then when you transition into your Specialty plan, just keep in mind that the 3 key workouts almost always fall on a Tue/Thu/Sat schedule (but you’re always welcome to alter that schedule as long as you allow sufficient recovery between hard workouts) and when you’re time constrained, those are the 3 most important workouts – everything else is icing on their cake.
Thanks for the update everybody.
I can see several people have commented on the length of some of the workouts, but they still seem about the same as previous for the first half of Sustained Power Build. If anything, the weekend sessions look shorter. I will just have to see, but if they are an improvement training wise, then great.
If I can just add to someone else’s comment about signifying the change to new plans. Perhaps if they were released with a name that made it obvious when it was released? I know you guys like mountains to name the workouts, so perhaps the plans called be named after US Presidents, so the newest plans get called Sustained Power Build (Washington) etc.
So name all the current plans (Washington). Then when they get updated, the newer ones get whoever the next president is. That would make it easier to find them, because in the changing world of training there must be a few Legacy plans by now.
The short track mtb speciality plans don’t have an ftp test nor do they taper like a road criterium plan? Is this intentional?
Hi Jimmy,
Every plan mentions the option to substitute an FTP test for the first scheduled workout if improvement is obvious or suspected. The Specialty phase is less about increases in FTP and more about refining and fine tuning the strength and endurance you’ve established and built in your earlier phases of training. Though, in our current revisions of the plans it’s likely we’re going to schedule FTP tests in Week 1. But you will not see one (or the mention of an option) in Week 5 for the reasons mentioned above.
As far as the differences in tapering goes, different plans will see different strategies. Tapering is meant to be a nonlinear reduction in training load with aims to reduce the physiological/psychological stress of your training. The design of each tapering strategy kept this in mind. 🙂
Hope this helps! Happy Training Jimmy!
Masters plans coming soon?
Disregard. I didn’t read through all the comments
Hello TR guys!
Thanks for the update! Always appreciated.
Question for you: I’m in a build plan right now, 3rd week. I’m thinking of completing this week, and the rest week, then starting the new build plan from scratch, rather than starting it at week 5.
Would be this be a healthy way to do it?
Bonus Question: When it comes to the A race, should it land on the Sunday of the final rest week, or should it be the week after?
Thanks guys,
Keep doing what you’re doing, especially the podcasts! 🙂
Steve
Hey Steve,
That’s a pretty great way to go about it. That will find you fresh and start you when many of the workouts shifted a bit in nature. I’m not sure which Build plan you’re on, but if the jump from week 5 (old) to week 5 (new) is too big/small, there are a number of ways to address this listed in the comments thus far.
In the Build plans, you can race whenever you like but when I developed the Builds I assumed riders are looking at C- and B-priority events and saving the A-events until the end of your Specialty plan, when possible.
But if you’re looking to be particularly fresh for a lower-priority event during the Build phase, your recovery weeks’ weekend (week 4 or 8, typically) is often far enough away from your last loading week that you’ll be fresh enough to race well.
And thanks! Will do. 🙂
Hi, love the podcast and the varied topics you cover. I was just watching a video diary from Steve Abrahams who is attempting the World Highest Annual Mileage Record. He says he has tried different recovery methods and the one that works for him is Magnesium Spray and also magnesium flakes in the bath. They “make his legs feel better”.
Have any of you tried this? Maybe Nate who seems to have tried most things ?.
From Martin (norry1 on Trainerroad)
Just curious if the specialty blocks are going to be extended in a similar way. If so, would a good stop-gap measure if one is currently on the High Volume plan (if time allows) be to add on a 30min endurance block like Taku immediately after the Tues/Thurs workouts, then sub in a ~2hr sweet spot ride for the multi-hour endurance on Sunday?
The Specialty plans are being revised to fall-in line with these changes. But that sounds like a great approach James!
Happy Training!
A likely too difficult technical solution to adapting the plans on the fly: Incorporate a +/- button on each of the workouts in the training schedule that allows people to quickly toggle them up or down based on time available (if/when alternates are available). That way it stays in the same “minimal user thought” process that makes following TR so easy from a workflow perspective, but allows the flexibility to adapt to changing schedules.
Cheers and keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback! That’d be sweet!
I’ll relay it to the team. 🙂
Chad and all at Trainerroad, I wanted to say thank you, you guys are awesome. I have been selling your app to others. The reason is.
I started some 4 weeks ago through advice of Danny J. I was commuting to work 280km and the Sunday 140km which started to fail. I was last at the back of our club rides. Slow on all the hills out of our cycle group of around 40 odd. On most rides I was not improving.
Last year I looked on my fitness levels and was doing good before the Mallorca 312, this was down to sweet spot training. So with Dannys advice and looking at your plan chose one to work on.
This was four weeks prior to a training week in Mallorca with 17 other cyclists in our club RDCC. I have cycled with all the club and most of these guys were faster than me, kept the distance going and at times I felt completely depleted on some of our rides with the pace and distance.
So after four weeks training three times a week. I arrived in Mallorca and the first day was a trip to the lighthouse, Cap da Formentor. Have a look at my strava ride and you will see 25 cups, 24 personal records and one other. I smashed it in my mind.
Not only did i follow the fastest person in our group up the hill but on the way back was able to break away from the pack. It was a great feeling to be cycling up there with the best of our group. On the first stretch to the light house, I also noticed the Vo max training worked. The pair that were just in front of me were sweating and out of breath where as i was cool and calm using the breathing techniques that I had picked up on the training sessions.
One gripe? a little one, can we have Chads tips on all with the ability to switch them off. I would like them to remind me and then if too much switch them off or choose to concentrate on the figures.
The week was the same, there was times when i would lead up the hills or arrive in the top five. For me this was awesome results. I had so much more power and improved. It was remarked that I had taken epo… I am as clean as a whistle and the nearest I come to enhancing drugs is caffine, strong expresso…lol
Thanks again, looking forward to improving and working on my ftp.
regards Vincenzo Iaciofano (vinnychoff)
Vincenzo,
This is freaking awesome! So glad to hear of your improvements! 😀
Considering you’re only 4 weeks in makes me think this is only the beginning…
For the instructional text, you can toggle this on/off from within the ‘Settings’ tab of the app.
Thanks again for sending us this, and for your support with TrainerRoad. Happy Training!
Hi.
In the blog you write:
“To keep TSS climbing would be inadvisable and unrealistic. Again, considering different forms of stress matters here.”
I think I’ve read and heard on multiple occasions that “When you enter the realm of VO2max training, TSS has to decline or flatline, because this type of training is harder than Threshold etc..”
I thought the TSS algorithm took different loads into account… Is the TSS model generally flawed?
The TSS algorithm does indeed take different loads into account, but certain types of training lend to differing TSS scores. Certain types of work can also be done for longer durations and more frequently than other types of work.
For example, you may have a large TSS score from a really long, low-intensity workout. Then you may have a relatively short, high-intensity workout with a bit lower TSS score. Which was more beneficial to your training? It depends on which aspect of your performance you’re trying to impact. The TSS from the high-intensity work is different from the TSS from the low-intensity ride. Additionally, the high-intensity stress will need to be managed differently than the low-intensity stress. Your TSS can’t always be rising, you’ll need periods of recovery to manage the stress to translate to positive training adaptations.
Hope this helps!
Have you guys considered having the alternate ride options show up on the mobile apps as a kind of slider left or right of the one that was scheduled for the day.
Would make it much easier than going all the way back out and remembering the name of the workout and searching for the +/- versions of it, and you could also have other recommendations like the SSB Sunday long ride workout
Thanks for the feedback Daniel.
That would be pretty nifty! I think the solution we have in mind for a future calendar feature will take care of this.
Thanks again!
Hey Nick. Any idea of timeline on this Calendar feature? Thanks.
Hi – We don’t have a definitive ETA just yet as we have a couple other things on the books that’ll come before. We’ve prioritized our features based on what we think will help the largest number of athletes get as fast as possible. 🙂
We’ll be sure to make a big huss & fuss as we get closer.
Please don’t hesitate to let us know at support@trainerroad.com if you run into anymore questions or concerns.
Thanks again!
This is helpful and exciting. I’d like to switch plans but I have a question. If I follow this advice (from above) “It’s recommended to delete your original plan to disassociate all your completed rides. This will allow you to more quickly assign those completed rides to your new plan.” will my already completed sustained power build Low Volume rides continue to exist in my “Career” just not connected to a particular plan?
If that’s the case, once the current/legacy plan is deleted, I just reassign past rides and go from there?
Thanks in advance for the guidance.
Oh…does TR sell hats and t-shirts?
Hi Charles,
That’s correct. The plans will still live on in your career, just not associated to that plan. Then once the plan is deleted/rides disassociated with that plan, you’ll just reassign on the new plan.
Hope this helps!
P.S. We won’t be selling any swag so we can dedicate all our time to making sure we can make ya’ll as fast as possible. 🙂
Reading the comments below please can you give an indication as to when the revised Specific Programme plans will be updated?
My season starts early for me and would rather not have to flip across mid plan especially if it is as dramatic as the recent changes.
TR has been awesome for me and without doubt the best time efficient way to train (gutted that sessions have been elongated in the new plans though looking at it many of them have endurance sections tagged on which could be sacrificed if pressed for time).
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Hi. I hope this question is not already answered, but I am in week 3 of old build phase, sustained power, low volume. Should I just cancel the old one, resubscribe to the new one and start over? Or start the new one at week 3? I use iPad for rides and can’t figure out how to “get credit” for existing rides if I move to new format and start midstream. Thx for help.
As an aside, on the iPad at least, after an interval, we now see the interval results across bottom 1/3 of screen. This now blocks the text, which I find frustrating. Not sure if others have observed/ complained of this, but I find it distracting. Thx again
Hi Marvin, sorry for the delay!
The old plans are still great plans, so if you’d like to carry them out as is, sweet! If you’d like to make the switch over to the new that’s cool too. You’d just pick up where you left off in the new plan. 🙂 If you had the extra time and wanted the extra training, you could even do the entire new plan. In any case, you’ll want to delete the old plan, and all rides will then be disassociated with that plan. They will then be freed up to be assigned to your new plan so you can get credit for all that hard work.
We’ll look into this interval summary issue now. Thank you for the feedback! This may be the same issue we were running into in the past, but I’ll confirm with our specialists to be sure we’re working towards a fix.
Thanks again Marvin!
I wished to update my Plan (Sustained Power – Low Volume) to the new plan. First you said we must unassign the completed rides but then say that we should ‘delete’ the entire plan then assign the rides to the updated plan.
Well I deleted my current plan (legacy) without “unassigning” – which is what I thought was the instruction. I then opened the new plan and when I tried assigning my completed rides, they were all still “assigned”.
How can I complete the transition now? Did I misunderstand the process? Please help…
Howard, Deleting the current plan without un-assigning any workouts should still disassociate all workouts that were assigned to that plan. They should then be freed up to be assigned to your new plan.
Please let us know at support@trainerroad.com if that’s not what you’re seeing on your end. Thanks Howard! Looking forward to getting this worked out ASAP.
Well, it seems that when I deleted my ‘current’ plan the assigned workouts did NOT get unassigned! I tried to assign them to the updated plan, but they show up as “assigned”.
What next?
thanks,
howard
Sorry for the inconvenience Howard!
I just took a peek at your career and the old plan appears to have not been deleted yet. That’s why you’re seeing those workouts still assigned to another plan. 🙁
Access your career, then go to “Plan History”. There you’ll see the older plan that should be deleted. Select the three dots to the right of the plan that is to be deleted, and select “Delete Plan”. This will officially un-assign all those rides and free them up to be assigned to the new plan.
If there are any additional issues with this (or anything else), please shoot us an email at support@trainerroad.com and we can get this done for you in a jiffy. 🙂
Thanks again Howard!
Hi Nick,
I’m sorry to have to continue this thread, but I went to my Career and nowhere do I see anything to do with “Plan History”.
I even put that to the “search” box and nothing happened.
Then I went to “Workouts” and for my ‘current’ plan there is a diamond-shape box with the number 2
next to the title “Build Phase”. I saw the 3 dots there, but it only gives me the choices: Stop or View Original.
So where exactly do I find “Plan History”?
thanks, again!
howard
No worries Howard! Let’s fix that for ya. 🙂
I’m going to send you an email (to the email associated with your account) with an attached an image to show you where you’ll find access to your plan history.
Thanks for bearing with us through this one!