I’m training reasonably hard but for some reason the traffic light system stopped working a few weeks ago . Also I don’t get any progression points after a workout? My legs feel fatigued so it’s not like I’m not putting any effort in. My ftp is set by trainerroad AI. Maybe it’s set too low?
Are the workouts you are completing a higher level than your current progression level?
How it’s meant to work is quite simple - if you complete say a level 5 workout then your progression level should be changed to level 5.
Are you saying that that isnt working - or are you being given workouts that are below your current level?
I’ll complete a workout and It used to update the progression charts but now nothing happens. It’s as if Trainerroad AI thinks they’re too easy. Virtually nothing on the chart has progressed. I’ll do that v02 max workout later and nothing on it will change. I think I trained for 8 hours last week with no changes to it.
Can you make your account public and post a link? It’s very hard for me to picture what is going on here.
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If you have recently completed a workout with a level higher than any of those numbers than your level should increase.
Definitely send an email to support
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When did you last accept aiftp? It will also drop progression levels when you accept a higher ftp
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Someone else recently mentioned their PL’s weren’t increasing. I wonder if there’s a bug? I’d contact TR Support.
Also if you click on any of those red bars it will tell you what caused the last change )up or down)…. but honestly…. I’m sure support will have this sorted or explained for you minutes after receiving an email….
In fact I might just “at” Eddie @eddie (I’m not sure if you have to might have to say it 3 times like beetlejuice?)
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Hey there,
It looks like you’ve only done four TR workouts in the past two weeks. Three of them were level 1 or level 1.5 Endurance workouts, and one was a level 1.5 VO2 Max workout. All of those have been applied to your Progression Levels.
Also, it appears that Red Light Green Light is working as intended from my end. You rode a total of 3 hours and 43 minutes last week, which likely wasn’t enough to warrant any sort of caution.
With that being said, your training approach is currently set to aggressive, so if you’re struggling with fatigue, I’d recommend switching that back to balanced to see if things align better with what you’re hoping to see.
You do have a yellow day today, even with the aggressive training approach in place, so make sure to rest today! 
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I did 7-8 hours last week. So trainer road really isn’t any good to me if it’s not picking up outside rides,gym workouts or zwift rides . It can’t detect my energy levels properly. I recently spent 2 months out with an ankle injury and adaptive training lowered my ftp as a consequence. When the ftp was higher it felt like it was working but everything seems too easy at the moment. It’ll be raining in the UK for the foreseeable future so I’ll be doing almost totally structured riding for a bit.
Lyndon
It is public.
I’m only getting fatigued after the gym sessions (squats). I can handle 8 hours of riding a week.
Please post a link. The forum user names are independent of your TR login for the app.
Maybe some confusion on how this works?
Outside rides, gym and Zwift workouts will be used to determine traffic light status but will not increase progression levels (unless the zwift rides are TR workouts….) assuming that you have it set up so TR can see those activities.
The progression levels monitor progression along a plan and are used by the system to increase stimulus.
The progression levels are not a direct measure of performance.
In my experience most plans will start you off with workouts within the level 3-4 range. If the workouts you are being given are too easy then make sure you mark them as “easy” in the survey and the AI will catch up eventually.
If you are finding the workouts way too easy then swaping out the next workout out for an alternate that is a level higher will speed up the process.
Main thing to remember is that (currently) the only thing that effects progression levels are TR workouts and the only relevance of progression levels is chossing the next TR workout.
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TR is fully taking outdoor rides into account for features like AI FTP and Red Light/Green Light (its fatigue management system). The only area where outdoor rides (≠ outdoor workouts) are not taken into account are for Progression Levels. Apart from long endurance rides, I don’t think that unstructured outdoor rides will increase Progression Levels as typically you never focus on one single power zone in an unstructured ride. Hence, you are not placing enough emphasis to really push the systems that contribute the most in any particular power zone. Imagine if you mixed a VO2max and a threshold workout, you wouldn’t achieve maximum oxygen uptake.
If you combine some of the things you have written with the context that @eddie’s post provides, the most likely thing is you are trying too much too early. It is a common mistake (which I have made, too, when I started structured training) that e. g. if you can ride 10 hours a week, then you can also train 10 hours a week. Not so.
In your first post, you stated that your legs feel fatigued after workouts, and usually that’s a sign you are doing too much and incurring too much fatigue. Especially if you are doubling up with e. g. a workout on the bike in the morning and strength training in the afternoon without giving your body enough time to get used to it, you can easily cook yourself.
Quoted for emphasis. It’s right in the name, TR called them Progression Levels and not Performance Levels (even though they both lead to the same abbreviation). That’s very much intentional, they are meant to help Adaptive Training and you to choose the right workout for you, and not represent performance.
Put another way, there is no easy way to tell whether an athlete with an FTP of 300 W and a threshold PL of 9.0 is faster or slower than an athlete with an FTP of 320 W and a threshold PL of 7.4 in a time trial.
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Now this is not what this feature is for…. but might me useful to emphasise the point.
You can use the AI TrainNow recomendations to guage where the AI overloard thinks your actual achievable workout level is.
For example I am currently in the base phase mainly doing Sweet Spot and Threshold work and these are my current progression levels…
Notice how “anaerobic” is at 1.1
However, if i ask AI TrainNow to suggest an anaerobic workout i get this…
8.7!!!
And, looking at the workout, it would be a really tough one, but I could do it.
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So just an update. I did today’s suggested workout and completed it ,answered the survey as moderate and still no progression added to the chart. I think I’ll start picking my own harder workouts as suggested by some . I’ve been using the AI since last year and it’s only since it reversed my ftp(ankle injury caused) that it started doing this. It’s very infuriating as I could have done a harder workout.
That workout is a SS1.0, so no matter how you rate it, your SS PL is not going to rise. If your SS PL is 1.0 and you do a SS 2.0 ride, you should see your PL rise to 2.0. If it doesn’t, reach out to support.
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When a workout is completed the score adjust to the score of the workout. A 1.0 Workout can not be expected to raise progression levels, as it is 1.0. But, as you rated the wo moderate it probably wont raise the score that much, as moderate is around what is expected of a ss wo. But, I am sure that the next time it suggests a workout it will give you atleast some more, probably around 2.0.
A valid question is “why has it only suggested a level 1 SS workout”
When you say it was the suggested workout - how was it suggested - are you on a plan?
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