Agreed, and I’m aware of the issue. I like to track TSS carefully because my natural tendency is to overdo things, so keeping a lid on TSS (while also ensuring a proper balance between low and high-intensity work) helps me to keep the workload healthy (or at least healthier).
Thanks for the input! Your recommendations match well with what I’m thinking, which I hope means I’m finally getting the hang of setting up a good training regimen for myself. 
Hope everyone has been enjoying their summer, slogging thru the heat and/or humidity! It’s time to start the build cycle for fall races. Here in Taiwan, the big fall races will be Standard Chartered Marathon in Nov and Taipei Marathon in Dec.
@adenega @MAGNUStm Both of you are doing the NYC marathon. That’s ~13wks out. Are you doing 20wk or more typical 16wk builds?
Anyone else w/some fall race plans to add to the list?
I had 5wks off due to a bad case of Covid. I’m slowly coming around. Good news is I have until December (Taipei Marathon (21k event) to get fit.
Hope you are feeling better!
I hope to finish the year with the Daytona challenge and immediately switch to marathon training to do Boston…needs to be a quick turn around so I hope I don’t get injured like last time
Hopefully a solid 10k in 6 weeks for me. Marathon is the flagship event which I’d love to do as I’ve never done a proper all-out marathon, but the turnaround is a bit tight with duathlon state champs. (10 usually gives me enough time to recover, and a pretty decent estimator of where my run is at for a sprint)
Kind of hoping for a podium (mostly for the money haha), but I think the 10k will be just as competitive and probably tougher for me to crack then the marathon based on last years results. Definitely a ‘that’d be real nice’ rather than a hard goal, but I’ve seen some big improvements in my aerobic/base paces recently so I’m interested to see if I can round that into race shape over the next month or so. Nothing motivates like the lingering threat of uni fees, I guess 
I’m doing the NYRR 9+1 program for entry to the NYC Marathon for next year, since there was no way I’d be ready to run 40K+ this year. And even next year seems a little rushed, honestly… So this year has been, and will continue to be, full of races.
I set a new 10K PB (8:39/km, 13:55/mi) in June, and then beat it by 16 sec/km (26 sec/mi) with a new 5M PB last weekend (8:23/km, 13:29/mi). So I won’t be winning any prize money this decade, but I’m definitely improving and enjoying the process.
Important races coming up are the Staten Island Half on 8/Oct, my first half-marathon ever, and the Saving The Elephants 10K on 11/Nov, which is my A race for the year and where I’d REALLY like to be under 1:20:00 (8:00/km, 12:52/mi).
Neither. I am making it up as I go along. Late June to Late July I had an encouraging 4 weeks where I maintained 60 miles per week with some good threshold work, but then the humidity finally got me and I crashed and burned last week.
I’m starting a Pfitzinger 12-week marathon training plan (35-55mpw) on 8/14 in preparation for this year’s NYC Marathon (got in through lottery). This will be marathon #12, but my first in 7 years. I’ve been focused on HIM’s/tri more recently. I’m planning to follow TR low volume polarized base/build plans in conjunction with the Pfitz running plan. I’ll certainly scale back on rides as the running mileage gets near peak volume.
This will be my first time incorporating cycling into marathon training—looking forward to it!
Thinking about marathon.
There should be a clear path for post Ironman to marathon out there somewhere. All seems a bit hodge podge to me.
I’m enjoying randomish training at the moment but obvs have a level of fitness I could leverage.
There is… but you have to put the millage. You do full IM, you should be able to do a marathon, faster than a IM marathon…
Now, what are you expectations?
Fear and loathing! 
I don’t think there is. It seems most people switch to a standard marathon training and abandon swim and bike altogether.
I’m thinking of extending some of my 16-21km long runs, making my club runs progressively harder and adding a trail/track interval to my routine. One long swim, one long bike and heavy lifting cross training.
I dont… its up to you…
I do lower the bike time… and not do super hard stuff…
It can be done… you need to up your run millage and lower your bike time.
You can swim on your rest days or on easy run days…
The main difference is the focus, on marathon is running instead of bike
I think I mentioned this before in the Tri thread, but many of the full IM guys here I ride and run with only run 3d/week when in full marathon mode. Swim and bike become all easy. No easy runs. A typical week might look like this:
Mon: 1hr easy bike or swim.
Tue: AM: light bike or swim PM: 1hr run intervals
Wed: 1hr easy bike or swim.
Thur: AM: light bike or swim PM: 1hr run intervals or tempo.
Fri: 1hr easy bike or swim.
Sat: easy 2hr on trainer 3-4hr easy outdoor ride.
Sun: long run 20-25km. NOT LSD. progression run towards marathon pace, steady to fast finish, marathon pace run.
While their tri results vary greatly across the bunch, they almost all run about the same for open marathon, 3hrs.
edit: the run training is group training. everything else is mostly solo. the group run training definitely helps mentally.
That’s interesting, may try this.
Training has been a bit of mixed bag all summer due to lots going on with work and personal life. I’m staying active with some structure but unfocused. Coupled with the excessive heat we’ve been experiencing (30+ days over 100 degrees) has made for some very hard days. A few months back I moved my treadmill/bike making things quite miserable. With all of that (ie. excuses lol) I ultimately started viewing NYC as an ‘experience’ more so than a PR attempt.
A few weeks ago my buddies were all talking about Waco 70.3 and we all signed up. Training is still a mixed bag but I will do what I can there. I’ll have three weeks until NYC which gives me a week to recover, a week to train and a week to taper.
Should be a fun few weeks.
Hope everyone else’s training goals are going as planned.
Since my Covid (totally savaged me) setback, I’ve been working to get base mileage up again while wheeling and dealing w/the running gods regarding the state of my body. I’ve managed to avg ~50km/wk for the last 4wks now. I’ll probably start adding workouts next week w/the focus on a half in December. Since I spent last year learning to walk and this year so far learning to run again, I didn’t have a qualifying time to get automatic early bird entry. Registration for the masses opens tomorrow. Wish me luck!
Anyone lives or have live in Colorado springs that can recommend a track? I could use one tomorrow for a workout! Thanks in advance!
After an hour of various failures, I finally succeeded in signing up for the Taipei Marathon (21km div). That was a long hour. First time I haven’t been able to do early bird registration which is due to a lack racing and thus no qualifying time (<90min) from the previous 2yrs. Anyway, I’m in with ~16wks to get fit which should be plenty 
I meant to share a recent race event from last month; Beer Mile World Classic. I had the opportunity to getaway for the weekend so my buddy talked me into going to Chicago with him to run the Beer Mile World Classic. I’ve done plenty of beer miles in the past running half decent times (PR 6:58) but this would be a first on a track with more than a few people running competitively.
The event was made up of multiple open heats where runners were grouped based on expected finish times. In total there were 8 ‘open’ heats, followed by ‘Celebs’, ‘OGs’ and then ‘Elites/Pros’. Watching the elites run for the world title was really cool. The guy who won ran a 430 flat with one shoe even after someone stepped on his heal a few meters into the run.
I ran a new PB of 6:07 coming in 8th in my heat (the last open heat). My run times were good but my chug time degraded quickly. I’m thinking I went out too hard on the first lap and struggled to catch my breathe enough to be able to down the beers.
The whole event was essentially one big party around the track. Followed by an afterparty in down/midtown Chicago. If it’s in the States again next year I will do what I can to make it.
I watched this on YouTube about a month ago. You should find the YT video(s). I’m guessing you’ll see yourself in them.
They started the broadcast following my heat but I did see various clips they posted on IG. I saw myself for a split second. Sadly not enough screen time to make me internet famous lol.
