I’ve seen a number of posts here and comments on the wider web to the effect of, “TR is great for beginners, but experienced racers self-coach or pay for a coach”. What’s driving that perception?

Do you have the link to “Dylan’s post”? I’d like to check it out.

[image] guyc: P.S. IMO “just add extra z2” is not a training plan, it’s self coaching. :slight_smile: Yes, and TR is a self-coaching platform that allows athletes to tailor training plans to their needs. Modifying training plans is and has always been part of TR’s core functionality.

[image] OreoCookie: Yeah, I think a lot of athletes get to the point where they need to customize training plans. But is that orthogonal to TR? Are you only using TR if you slavishly stick to their training plans? I don’t think so. I def use TR 6 days a week, this was version of SSB recently …

[image] OreoCookie: Yes, and TR is a self-coaching platform that allows athletes to tailor training plans to their needs. Modifying training plans is and has always been part of TR’s core functionality. To me your statement doesn’t really fit to their mantra of “the right workout every time”. …

[image] Daniel_Lalinde: Question: During those ~5 years when you went from Cat 5 to Cat 1, did you ever replace Sweet Spot workouts with Outside long rides? Fitness-wise I could have made that progression, I went from 3.7 W/kg (277 W) to 4.7 W/kg (348 W) for the last two seasons. I mostly bas…

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What a great story. Thanks for sharing. I’ll experiment with replacing some SS with z2 longer rides :slight_smile:

[image] Rizzi: To me your statement doesn’t really fit to their mantra of “the right workout every time”. It fits perfectly: I let TR take care of scheduling the intense sessions. My outdoor rides lead to adaptations, too, since I associate suitable workouts to outdoor rides. Training isn’t …

[image] Rizzi: Sounds a bit hash to me. @jz91 raised valid concerns that have been discussed here in numerous threads again and again. So I’d rather blame the TR wording / user experience (remember the thread discussing better names for LV MV HV Plans). Nevertheless thanks for providing a cleare…

Crosshair: Out of interest @Jonathan , what percentage of a plan would you expect a TR user to complete accurately for you guys to score that user as having ‘completed’ the plan successfully? And has adaptive training increased that percentage? (And I respect that might not be data you want t…

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