Supplement Regimen

Where to do you find Trisodium Phosphate? When I google it I find the studies that show it works but when I look for product about all I find is a powder for cleaning.

You can get it from Loud Wolf. I think you can also get it from Prescribed For Life.

Also, I only take it for six days in two cycles. Three weeks out from an event I’ll take it for 5-6 days. Then the week before the event I’ll take it for another 5 days. So a little bit goes a long way.

They didn’t talk too much about the major ones though. Creatine, beta alanine and sodium bicarbonate. Maybe because it’s not a hot topic and relatively common knowledge at this point? Also since the cramping thing and pickle juice was purported to be due to acetic acid aka vinegar. Would dilute apple cider vinegar be as effective?

Just listened to that podcast & enjoyed it. Don’t agree with everything they said, for sure, but it was entertaining to listen to!

One thing I will say…they spent a lot of time talking about the taste of beet root juice & how it might not be pleasant to some. I guess I agree. However in my opinion beet root juice isn’t the best source for acute/chronic nitrate dosing anyhow. Arugula & rhubarb have much higher nitrate concentration & they are two veggies which (to me, at least) TASTE GREAT.

Sometimes when I’m carb loading I’ll throw together some rhubarb pie filling & just eat that. I love rhubarb juice…sweetened, of course. And no salad is complete without arugula. Arugula is GREAT on pizza as well. Or in a fritata. Yum!

So ditch the beet juice. Arugula is a better option in terms of taste and benefit.

Although I am a HUGE fan of pickled beets. :wink: So if you are having cramp problems that might be a good way to go!

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A few additions here:

My regimen has grown a bit, but mostly whole food options… I will say that I took Rainbow Light men’s multis previously and thought they were the only multi that I could feel a difference. I don’t take a multi any longer. Now:

Nordic Naturals fish oil+D still.
Potato Starch before bed for prebiotic, digestion and sleep support (resistant starch) - like $3.00 for a bag that lasts months.

Added:
Ahswagandha capsules to help with overall stress and anxiety from cortisol levels. I feel a difference with this, both in terms of recovery and daily mood. (Similarly, I cook with turmeric several times per week.)

Started with tart cherry juice for joints and inflammation as well as sleep support. Plan to do a serving after workouts and a serving before bed once I get the concentrate. We will see how this goes…

Just listened to this podcast…corollary an comment/question here – does anyone really like the Fast Talk podcast? I find it exceedingly difficult to listen to.

They are so dry, have no chemistry, are very poor interviewers and I find myself just yelling (in my head) ‘get to the point!!’

Trevor Connor might be the best coach on the planet, but he is really tough to listen to – has no ability to extrapolate science into practical application…

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I can relate to that. I listen to that postcast when i ran out of others but truth to be told the are legit and have a lot of knowledge to share.

I listen to it regularly. They make an effort to get the opinions of other folks in the bike world. Don’t make me an advocate for their presentation style, though.

Did anyone ever do a RAMP test for one/each leg separately? Maybe to

  • compare the sum to FTP
  • comare the relation to L/R powermeter
  • do some testing after injury
  • whatever crazy thing…?

Can’t image anyone doing it…but who knows…some insane things going on in this forum :upside_down_face:

What I wonder is which is more insane: This idea or Disaster day?

Come on @Nate_Pearson you know this will appeal to you!

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My guess is that the sum of individual legs would be less than a standard ramp test because it takes a fair bit more out of smaller muscles to keep spinning, particularly with low inertia

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Pretty pointless I’d have thought. Done correctly it’s to test yourself to exhaustion. It’ll be a fruitless, if not potentially damaging to try that one leg at a time.

I’d be interested in a test to assess L\R imbalance

Also my thoughts (I said it’s insane and can’t imagine anyone doing it). But who knows what secrets are hidden in this forum…

TrainerRoad won’t even record the data unfortunately. It’s been asked many times if they’d at least pass the data along so it could be analyzed in TrainingPeaks or elsewhere. Nope…no interest on their part .

Guess it could be damaging. And some people have fluctuating L/R balance depending on power…so that’s that. Nevertheless it would be interesting to know if anyone has done so.

My ftp on each side will be 75. Lol

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Insane it is.

Hi guys, I want to ask you what supplements do you use and which ones really makes a difference.

Also, do you have any scientific study that supports the intake of that supplement? What are the benefits? It has any consequence? And your personal experience with that supplement.

I’m actually consuming only a recovery drink after each ride, a mix between protein and carbs. I don’t notice too much difference, but everybody says that is the most important one and the one who most helps you.

Thanks all!

Here is a recent literature review:

Sports Med. 2017 Mar;47(Suppl 1):79-100. doi: 10.1007/s40279-017-0687-1.

Practical Issues in Evidence-Based Use of Performance Supplements: Supplement Interactions, Repeated Use and Individual Responses.

Burke LM1,2.

Personally:

Caffeine is a moderate help in races
BiCarb gives me GI distress
Beet Root Juice didn’t seem to do much

Am currently using a stack of creatine, beta alanine, magnesium, D1, C and fish oil. Seems to work well and is cheap when purchased in bulk form (generics not branded magic mixes). But everyone is different.