🎉💪🏋️ Strength Training Upgrade: Add Working Sets! 🏋️💪🎉

Agreed. I was referencing an earlier comment that basically said if you don’t go to failure, leave it out.

Hi Nick, sorry to be a pain but this doesn’t seem to be working again!

Hey Nick,

I’ve noticed that manually checking a workout as complete w/ working set data doesn’t trigger a yellow day for me, but associating it with a Strava weight training workout with HR data, and adding working sets, does trigger a yellow day.

Is the manually-completed workout not factoring into AT, or is the extra HR data from Strava just having a weightier AT impact?

Follow up: I’ve manually completed today’s session with working set data, but haven’t yet uploaded my Apple Watch workout to Strava to sync to TR.

Am I the only one hoping for TR to add strength training to the app? I e. Suggest what you should do similar to Garmin’s new sport specific strength workouts

Start with assuming we have no equipment (body weight exercises like wahoo’ strength training) and maybe add a checklist of equipment like fitbod

A TR strength plan feels a bit overkill. They have the benchmarks, but you don’t really do a squat differently if you’re a crit racer versus a rolling road racer—a squat is a squat and you do progressive overloading by adding a small increase in weight (5lbs) each time. It just comes down to when you’re able to fit it in on your schedule, and how many sets/how much volume you can handle or recover from per workout.

I was able to update last week and this week’s strength. Are there any others?

Was this a case where you had updated it later on to Strength in Strava after it uploaded?

There’s currently a limitation with when we will get notified of a change from Strava that we’ve brought up with their team. Basically changing in Strava between “Workout” to “Strength” after the activity is uploaded won’t notify us of a type change (yet).

This sounds like a bug and I’ll investigate further with the team. Stand by!

Tonight’s workout seems to have worked, as soon I complete the workout I change it in strava but by that stage it may already have synced with TR?

I updated tonight’s. :slightly_smiling_face:

I think you’re right and it’s a timing thing where sometimes you update it before it’s actually synced to TR.

Does your device have the ability to record the session as Strength/Weight Training?

Think of it as a way to be told what to do if you don’t know what you should be doing. So not for those who already have strength workouts they already know what to do and how to structure them.

No, I only have a cardio option so it imports just as a workout into strava and I have to manually change it each time.

Update: this feature is now available on the app as well as on the web! :tada: :tada:

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This might be a very niche question, but maybe has some transferability to other activities.

Aside from strength training (love the new functionality by the way!) I regularly do finger strength exercises for bouldering. These are very specific in just targeting forearm muscles and only some of those. Therefore the systemic fatigue is, imho, negligible. Especially regarding cycling training.

Should I still categorize them as strength training or will that confuse the AI, as 6 sets of finger strength are nowhere comparable to say 6 sets of loaded dips or even tricep extensions. Am I better off, just categorizing them as “other”?

Thanks!

Thank you, @Nate_Pearson and the team, for this! Having recently returned to both cycling and strength training, this is fantastic.

Today, I completed a Les Mills BodyPump session, but the workout details were a bit unclear. I let my Garmin watch sync the workout to TR, then took a screenshot of the session details and used ChatGPT to break down the sets, which I entered into TR.

Afterward, TR suggested a recovery ride for tomorrow, and I completely agree!

I’m not a superhuman or a racer—just a 39-year-old dad trying to stay fit, and this support is incredibly helpful

Trying to parse the entire discussion here just to understand how (or if) those of us who are experienced power/olympic lifters, doing relatively heaving loads, should be using this feature.

I.e., if I am doing 2 working sets of 5 x 180kg squats, with ~2 RIR. While I am not pushing to failure here, the neuromuscular impact is substantial, the muscular fatigue/endurance impact is low. Is this being scored as if I just a ton of high volume squats to failure?

I think things get even trickier with Olympic movements, where if there is any breakdown in technique I am calling it done, despite never having ‘failed’.

IMHO, I would worry too much about it as the output is whether you should rest tomorrow or take it easy. You’re clearly lifting heavy, so I would fill out the working sets. I’m months away from getting near failure levels, so even though it’s aching I’m not recording sets in TR.

@MrHyde85 I’m not sure BodyPump meets the TR criteria, but if that wrecked you, like it used to wreck me, I’d record sets for that (they’ll be online somewhere)

I’m fairly confident that these do not meet the criteria for recording sets in TR.

Thanks @JoeX, I have a ChatGPT Premium Sub with work, so its really quick for me to work it out. I enjoy Les Mills as its engaging. Ive never been a gym goer.

I Hope your keeping well.

I’d say “other” is fine for those.

Happy bouldering! :person_climbing:

I tried to look through most of the posts here to see if it’s addressed. But I am having trouble wrapping my mind around some of the example exercises and how they are being classed as near enough to failure to count in the sets of exercises. I train with RPE or RIR - mostly using the RPE as the negative of the RIR, and practice working sets at 7-9 RPE, meaning that 1-3 reps are left “in reserve.” I think this relationship scales a bit with the total number of reps in the set, but that’s another topic.

Currently, I’m in a reverse taper after my final event (as written by Lyss Method), so on the whole none of the sets count for fatigue profiling by TrainerRoad.

What’s confusing me is the Burpee and Sit-up inclusion. Are these weighted exercises for this example? It’s just harder to imagine 10 burpees or 15 sit-ups being a set to failure. I think core exercises or very dynamic things like burpees are harder to take to near failure. It’s almost like those should be classed with the amount of effort. Like were the jumps on the burpees at 100% effort. I don’t know, just spitballing, but maybe that would be future work on movement to increase Power.

I’m looking forward to a winter strength phase and to see how it affects my recommendations by Trainerroad. The push towards accounting for holistic training is one of the reasons I’ve kept my TrainerRoad subscription for many years and why I will be using the platform for the first time in many years this winter.

One last question: I didn’t see anywhere if entering an estimated TSS for strength training was needed or beneficial?

Are there any plans to allow the user to change the workout type going forward? Even though I change my workout type fro weight training it still only imports to strava as other.