Yes he’s a weightlifter first and what I got from it . To increase muscle mass, going to failure isn’t the best way togo for regular folks. He did say it’s something everyone should try, his example he did 10 reps of squats to failure at like 450# or something and said he was dead for a week. Not something regular health focused people should do all the time if they want to increase muscle mass.
If you lift til 2-3 reps in reserve, with rest between sets. You’re able to do more work. Lifting to failure causes too much fatigue to do extra work.
He did also mention the best way to increase muscle mass is drop sets; I don’t remember word for word. But he was talking about power lifters and guys that could care less about their threshold tte.
In summary, if you’re a cyclist first don’t lift to failure or you can always FAFO. End of the day it’s only advice and unless you’re getting paid you can always mess around and find out.
You’re right, though I think the main issue being discussed is that the TR software appears to assume that you ARE going to failure in each set because they think that’s the best way to do strength training, and therefore assigns you too much fatigue which then affects whether it gives you yellow/red days thereafter.
I’ve noticed that manually checking a workout as complete w/ working set data doesn’t trigger a yellow day for me, but associating it with a Strava weight training workout with HR data, and adding working sets, does trigger a yellow day.
Is the manually-completed workout not factoring into AT, or is the extra HR data from Strava just having a weightier AT impact?
Follow up: I’ve manually completed today’s session with working set data, but haven’t yet uploaded my Apple Watch workout to Strava to sync to TR.
Am I the only one hoping for TR to add strength training to the app? I e. Suggest what you should do similar to Garmin’s new sport specific strength workouts
Start with assuming we have no equipment (body weight exercises like wahoo’ strength training) and maybe add a checklist of equipment like fitbod
A TR strength plan feels a bit overkill. They have the benchmarks, but you don’t really do a squat differently if you’re a crit racer versus a rolling road racer—a squat is a squat and you do progressive overloading by adding a small increase in weight (5lbs) each time. It just comes down to when you’re able to fit it in on your schedule, and how many sets/how much volume you can handle or recover from per workout.
I was able to update last week and this week’s strength. Are there any others?
Was this a case where you had updated it later on to Strength in Strava after it uploaded?
There’s currently a limitation with when we will get notified of a change from Strava that we’ve brought up with their team. Basically changing in Strava between “Workout” to “Strength” after the activity is uploaded won’t notify us of a type change (yet).
Think of it as a way to be told what to do if you don’t know what you should be doing. So not for those who already have strength workouts they already know what to do and how to structure them.
This might be a very niche question, but maybe has some transferability to other activities.
Aside from strength training (love the new functionality by the way!) I regularly do finger strength exercises for bouldering. These are very specific in just targeting forearm muscles and only some of those. Therefore the systemic fatigue is, imho, negligible. Especially regarding cycling training.
Should I still categorize them as strength training or will that confuse the AI, as 6 sets of finger strength are nowhere comparable to say 6 sets of loaded dips or even tricep extensions. Am I better off, just categorizing them as “other”?
Thank you, @Nate_Pearson and the team, for this! Having recently returned to both cycling and strength training, this is fantastic.
Today, I completed a Les Mills BodyPump session, but the workout details were a bit unclear. I let my Garmin watch sync the workout to TR, then took a screenshot of the session details and used ChatGPT to break down the sets, which I entered into TR.
Afterward, TR suggested a recovery ride for tomorrow, and I completely agree!
I’m not a superhuman or a racer—just a 39-year-old dad trying to stay fit, and this support is incredibly helpful
Trying to parse the entire discussion here just to understand how (or if) those of us who are experienced power/olympic lifters, doing relatively heaving loads, should be using this feature.
I.e., if I am doing 2 working sets of 5 x 180kg squats, with ~2 RIR. While I am not pushing to failure here, the neuromuscular impact is substantial, the muscular fatigue/endurance impact is low. Is this being scored as if I just a ton of high volume squats to failure?
I think things get even trickier with Olympic movements, where if there is any breakdown in technique I am calling it done, despite never having ‘failed’.
IMHO, I would worry too much about it as the output is whether you should rest tomorrow or take it easy. You’re clearly lifting heavy, so I would fill out the working sets. I’m months away from getting near failure levels, so even though it’s aching I’m not recording sets in TR.
@MrHyde85 I’m not sure BodyPump meets the TR criteria, but if that wrecked you, like it used to wreck me, I’d record sets for that (they’ll be online somewhere)
I’m fairly confident that these do not meet the criteria for recording sets in TR.
Thanks @JoeX, I have a ChatGPT Premium Sub with work, so its really quick for me to work it out. I enjoy Les Mills as its engaging. Ive never been a gym goer.
