Strava Sues Garmin

For many riders segments and boasting PRs plays no part in their use of Strava. I wouldn’t underestimate what will happen if Garmin blocks access to its API by Strava.

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Strava is going public on the stock exchange soon. They’re doing everything they can to get Garmin to buy them :slight_smile:

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I’m happy for Strava to stop claiming my data as theirs.

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Except for their API integration update last Dec made it useless for this… Classic case of not knowing what you’re good at.

Garmin Connect already has some of the features of Strava. I wonder how difficult it would be (without infringing on any patents, of course :wink:) for Garmin to open their platform to devices from more brands, and then offer premium features to Garmin device owners and people willing to pay for a subscription. :thinking:

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Garmin Connect was originally created to be a Strava competitor and then they ended up making a deal instead and cooperated. So they could do that, but Garmin didn’t really grok UX like Strava did at that time. Maybe they still don’t?

Alright well the current incarnation was designed to be a strava competitor. I don’t remember what it was before, maybe just a sync platform?

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Dear Developer,

We’re writing to inform you of a change to the Strava API Agreement. Garmin’s new API Brand Guidelines now require even downstream developers that do not connect directly with Garmin to include brand attribution when data is sourced from a Garmin device.

This Garmin requirement is reflected in a new Section 2.4 in our API Agreement (reproduced below).

Garmin Data Attribution: Activity data obtained through the Strava API may include data that requires attribution to Garmin. Therefore, if your application displays information derived from Garmin-sourced data, you must display attribution to Garmin in the form and manner required by Garmin’s brand guidelines.

Garmin’s API Brand Guidelines are scheduled to take effect on November 1, 2025. If you have questions regarding Garmin’s attribution requirements, the deadline, or your compliance with the requirements, we encourage you to reach out to connect-support@developer.garmin.com.

Best,

The Strava API Team

Interesting. This is what Strava’s Chief Product Officer said on Reddit they were “actively trying to prevent.” Are they folding?

What choice does Strava have but to fold on this issue, unless this is a hill they want to die (as a company) on. Seriously. Strava only exists because athletes capture data on other companies’ devices, and these other companies make it “easy” to send this data to Strava. And Garmin is the 800lb gorilla in terms of producing data that is sent to Strava.

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Do any customer’s actually care that a garmin logo shows up on their activity in Strava? But I guess Strava leadership has little interest in customer’s feedback unless we all threaten to leave when they do something stupid

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Strava can eff right off. I’m so sick of their stupid antics. Cancelled my subscription, I can do everything Strava can do for free on other apps. I don’t care about segments anymore, I had only kept my subscription up because my routes are all there. I can export those along with my entire ride history, so buh-bye :waving_hand:

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its my understanding that they will delete critical posts on their forums as well. I posted something once and then it disappeared

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When they made the API changes last year, their announcement on their forum ended with a reminder that “posts requesting or attempting to have Strava revert business decisions will not be permitted.” That’s how much they care about their users’ opinions, I guess.

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https://www.bikeradar.com/news/strava-plans-to-go-public-confirms-company-ceo

as others here have pointed out but now CEO confirms IPO

I wonder if going public will result in a price increase or maybe another confusing tier pricing plan

Yes.

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Not for me :wink:

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I just need to convince my friends to jump to RideWithGPS

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FWIW Garmin is NOT requiring logos anywhere, according to DC Rainmaker. They just want a text attribution, similar to the tiny and unobtrusive OpenStreetMap (or whatever company) text at the bottom of literally all maps on the internet.

I don’t think this is an effort at free advertising by Garmin (as Strava suggests) but rather a reaction to Strava’s aggressive API changes and claims of ownership over all data provided to them.

I also cancelled my auto renew on Strava; none of the paid features are worth anything to me and the company seems to be run by unbelievable a-holes. I’d rather spend my money elsewhere.

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It’s telling that everything Strava says requires a third party person to investigate and tell us the truth. We can’t take a single thing they say at face value anymore.

I thought the new CEO and execs were supposed to be the solution to their last PR fumble but they are only making everything worse.

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