You might’ve seen this from Strava in your email just now:
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We’re reaching out to inform you of a change that affects how third-party apps connected to Strava may display certain information. This update, effective on November 11th, is part of our commitment to privacy and transparency across all connected apps and devices.
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…which includes this condition:
Data Use Limitations:
We’re updating our terms to explicitly prohibit third parties from using any data obtained via Strava’s API in artificial intelligence models or other similar applications.
Reading between the lines … strava saying “it’s OUR data and we need to protect our most valuable asset”.
The only third party I share strava with is intervals.icu. But IMO would make sense to start sharing the primary source of data (garmin, wahoo, etc) with third parties rather than strava, even though strava is usually the easiest.
I do this stuff for a living and hope this isn’t the start of a larger trend. Like I’m not going to be happy if Garmin pulls something like this. Unfortunately pervasive in my industry though (healthcare).
It sure sounds like it, so I guess the best thing to do in this case is cut out the middleman and sync directly from Wahoo/Garmin to TrainerRoad (and intervals.icu) and… that pretty much kills my primary use case for Strava
Also, lol:
Note: Per our Community Guidelines and Guidelines to Ideas, posts requesting or attempting to have Strava revert business decisions will not be permitted.
It is definitely rich that Strava has implemented AI itself using data ** checks notes ** obtained via third party APIs but is apparently forbidding the reciprocation.
I am still in “benefit of the doubt” mode as I haven’t read the full legalese but lol.
I do wonder if they are aware of this they will rightfully stay quiet for the time being. If they unsure what this means for their integration with Strava it is usually best in the company’s interest to stay quiet until they get full clarify on the legal implications, if any.
That is part of the reason I skipped a tag for now.
But if this is so far reaching, I would have hoped that Strava might give a heads up to those potentially affected 3rd parties. Or not… and they are blindsiding them the same us average people?
We have the post above from David (Intervals.icu) and I saw another on Reddit where developers shared that they were notified by Strava earlier than we (the users) were.
Thanks for sharing the Intervals.icu update, as I had asked this exact question. I believe this change means coaches will no longer be able to view our activities on Intervals/TrainingPeaks. If that’s the case, the only use I have for Strava is the heat maps, and I’m sure not paying their annual rate for that.
Meanwhile, here on TR’s forum, we’re free to politely question everything, threads focused entirely on competitor products are tolerated, and the boss asks us for input on product features.
Hence - in my case at least - zero goodwill towards Strava, and immense goodwill towards TrainerRoad.
For what it’s worth, I have an API application and only got the notice about the changes two hours ago. Granted, it’s a very small application so maybe I didn’t merit any more advance warning (the only user is me, I’m using the API to show my own data on my own website, which it seems I’m not allowed to do anymore )
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