Contract law dictates “offer” and “acceptance”
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I just can’t believe that people are actually trying to go down the path of “this is illegal”. I used to get some channels in my cable package for free through our condo association. Then the packages or association agreement with Comcast changed and I no longer get those few channels. I would actually be embarrassed to call the association or Comcast and complain about how I’m somehow entitled to those channels forever. And to make it more relative to this thread, I would have the argument of “I’ve never watched those channels because they add nothing of value to my life and are stupid, but damn it they should be free and I won’t stop bothering you until you give them back even though I don’t want them”
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That’s behind a paywall too now. You can see the previous times, but can’t navigate to them to see what wattage you did, what type of ride they were on…etc.
Who is saying that?
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Because users bitched about a few ads in their feeds. Now they can pay.
It won’t matter in a bit, all the E-Bikes will have the KOMs.
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Personally I don’t want to see ads, they are annoying. Also annoying is the flood I get in my feed how someone joined a club or a challenge. Don’t care, I’d be more interested to see when someone I follow completed a challenge than signs up for it.
Guess we all have to deal with things we don’t care for.
Just this morning I thought about flagging 2 “riders” who blasted one of my Cat.4 climb KOMs. Albeit they were 2 soccer moms driving their kids to school in the morning, but still, kudos to them for snagging the crown! 
If strava wants me to pay for leaderboard access, the quality of that product has to improve immensely by many, many factors.
As of now, I find it rather liberating not to be shackled to a chaotically erroneous form of social comparison.
Bike ridin’ time!
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VCs don’t fund startups so they can pay the operational bills, they fund them so they can develop a value proposition and execute on it. Their revenue stream should cover the ops bills. If they don’t, therein lies the problem. Either the value prop is weak, it has not been developed correctly, and/or the monetization model is wrong.
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When looking at one of your own activities, and then clicking on a segment you rode, you can still see your own top 10 times for that segment displayed alongside. And the links to the underlying activities remain clickable, so you can still see look at when etc. you rode those past times…
Perhaps they’ve overlooked this window into your own past history?
For me, this is all novelty stuff and if they torch it all it doesn’t much matter and it’s not something I’d personally pay anything for via subscription. What others choose to do and pay for is up to them of course, so good luck to them if their subscriptions keep it all going.
I don’t want anyone to see this as a shot at Strava and post another three paragraphs about it, but I’m pretty sure you get the little premium badge just by accepting the 60 day free trial. We will be able to see whether this move is really working for them come July.
As a general rule, I don’t like “evergreen” subscriptions, especially free trials that last long enough that you forget about them, but that’s why they make calendars and reminder apps!
I haven’t accepted the trial yet. Not sure I will. Strava provides little value to me. To each their own. If Strava is valuable to someone, then $5/month isn’t a lot to ask.
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Friday evening just finished work, been along day.
Popcorn time. lol
Need to scroll back up half a Strava mile now and start reading.
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If it takes you less than an hour to read the entire thread I’ll have to flag your performance.
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Don’t worry, I had popcorn last night so only need to read half the thread and I am not in a car.
PS. It was Strava elevation only 1/4 of a mile, not the half or mile I thought it was.
The free part is valuable to me… but yes, if the premium part is valuable to someone, $5 is not a lot. I guess the question is whether the value of the premium part depends on the size of the premium crowd - that can create a downwards spiral.
Not to throw shade, but at the same time I think it’s kind of funny to see people that ride around on $3k+ carbon bikes with $500+ worth of kit and gear on complain about having to pay an extra $4 a month…
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Who wants to see three paragraph responses when “Strava sucks” is much easier on the eyes 
Cognitive load.
wow that was some post 
Small expenses have a way of adding up fast, so in this house we try and spend wisely. That way of thinking may be old fashioned and out of step with consumerism. 
I appreciate seeing other perspectives, thanks for posting.
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Wow, this thread. People are very passionate about Strava - both for and against.
When I first started cycling I got into Strava in a big way, and chasing KOMs was a big focus for me. I have a relatively low (1##,###) user number on Strava as I was a fairly early adopter (although certainly not in the initial wave).
I would plan rides around segment efforts and actively trade KOMs with other local riders. Strava was very important to me, and I have maintained my (free) account since December 2011 - all of my rides are there.
However, as I became a more comeptitive cyclist I moved away from looking at strava for every ride, and checking in multiple times a day to give kudos, comment on rides, etc. This is both due to a lack of functionality in Strava (ride specific analytics, PMC) and a general focus on other things in my cycling. Safe to say we grew apart - neither entirely based on Strava’s lack of evolution nor on my entirely giving up on KOMs (there are still a handful that I check in on a couple times a year).
All this to say - Strava means much less to me now than it did in say 2012 or 2013. My primary usage now is as a data aggregator and distributor. I love that I can use it as a hub for my uploads that will distribute data into other platforms where I can do the review that matters to me. Losing the ability to look at full leaderboards is meaningless to me, if they take away, or limit, their integration capabilities that will be a major decision point for me - pay or find a replacement.
Will go back to lurking on this thread now - I find it amazing how strong everyone feels about this, even in the height of my Segment analysis days I don’t think I cared a great deal about people outside of the top 10
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