Strava API Agreement Update

All that would actually be required is for the various services to decide on a file structure to use on cloud storage and then all point to that.

Give each service access to write to, read from but not modify and your done?

Also, not used Dropbox in years, but they might have a feature to automate what you are doing?

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Pretty much sum up my thoughts exactly

I have paid for Strava premium since 2017, not so much for the features but mainly because it felt like a service worth supporting, similar to why I also pay for Intervals

No more, recent changes have had my reconsidering and this announcement was the final straw, yesterday I cancelled my subscription which was set to renew in January

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I wouldn’t attribute as much value to this as you are. There are only ever a few ways to do a workout, beyond that there are differences purely for the purpose of variety. I’m pretty sure you could feed ChatGPT 50 workouts and ask for another 300 variations and have yourself a huge catalogue in no time.

The smarts is determining the most appropriate workout for you to do, now and in the future.

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I’d assumed(?) OreoCookie was referring to the bazillion completed workouts - the activity data itself, within the context of the plans where the work was accomplished - not the workout “definitions”, which as you say, have negligible value really.

ie. the dataset upon which the ML models are built.

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They kind of did see it coming though… just not this quickly and maybe not to the same extent, the API connection limitations have slowly being making some services unusable.

3 services I use (two running, one mutlisport) have recommended linking via Garmin or Trainingpeak in the last year or so instead of Strava.

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It is not about variations of workouts, but the ability to compare what athletes should have done vs. what they actually did do.

This way you can ask questions like “For athletes from this cohort (sex, age, ability, etc.), how many athletes followed a training plan of recipe A to the end vs. recipe B?” This is not something Strava can do. TR has to my knowledge the biggest dataset of this type in the industry.

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yes sorry, I took the other version of ‘huge database of workouts’.

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I wish more apps would have an option to sync workouts to cloud storage. TR is one of the few that I’m aware of that do that. I have TR export to Dropbox and intervals.icu pulls those workouts from there. Or at least I did have that setup like that last time Strava broke their intervals.icu link

Good point of clarification. Thanks. I thought he was talking about the library too.

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Lots of people mentioning Dropbox across various threads recently. I looked into it and immediately moved on because it looks like it costs at least $10 a month these days. Is this wrong?

Also, isn’t using Dropbox introducing the same risk as we had accepted with Strava in that everything is in one place?

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Open a new account, the free version should be more than enough for decades of fit files

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Thanks. I didn’t even bother since when I clicked on pricing it didn’t mention a free account.

Unfortunately the Dropbox connection doesn’t push old activities, only new ones. So if you want to keep your existing data you’ll need to keep Strava active (or request a GDPR pack from TR, which I’ve done but haven’t received yet, so no idea how usable the data in there is)

I don’t know which device you use but I was able to retrieve all my old data from wahoo (which I then put in Dropbox)

No. Strava was/is not at fault. The USSS agents should have hidden their activities or not posted to a public forum if there were location concerns.

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Absolutely agree that the ability to hide those activities is there and they should have done it, but given the bad publicity from this and other incidents, I do think Strava is at least partially motivated to make these changes for their own legal safety

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I’ve got Garmins, and although TR can push activities there, Garmin won’t then push them onwards to (in my case) intervals.icu, or any other destination if they didn’t originate from within the Garmin ecosystem.
I’m fed up with companies putting all these restrictions and covenants on our data, and everything is just so fragile.

I thought they were just joking but I googled it and the USSS agents were actually stupid enough to post it :astonished:

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I’m not sure if it’s stupidity. If agents are on their off time and go for a run in the city that the protectee is in, there is no issue or safety concern. This happens all the time.

Typically the general location of the protectee is not hidden (ie: Trump will be at a rally on Friday in Chicago). Rather the exact location and time at any given moment is. The potential issue arises when the protectee is trying to hide their location for safety concerns. This happens when the location is considered hostile (foreign country) or the location is inherently difficult to control.

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Call it Naivety then, if for some reason I was reason I was an agent I couldn’t imagine keeping any part of my movements public whether attached to anyone else or not!

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