Sprint training session >10 career result

[Olly1]

I completed a custom workout earlier which included 6x20s max and 6x10s max efforts- I built this in training peaks so both go over 300% FTP.

Having completed it, TR is saying it results in a career score of 21.0 (capped at 10.0).

Whilst it’s wonderful to think I’m an insanely gifted sprinter, this just isn’t the case.

Any thoughts appreciated. Only 1 week into TR and did search the forum first for similar posts but couldn’t find anything.

[Nate_Pearson]

It’s likely overcounting sprints here. How long are those first sets of intervals? What’s the actual percentage of FTP that is in the workout?

[WindWarrior]

@Olly1

built this in training peaks so both go over 300% FTP.

In my testing, anything over something like 200% or 225% will inflate the Workout Level to unrealistic levels. Later I’ll go search for my forum post on the subject, where I modified existing TR workouts and increased the % on sprints.

[Nate_Pearson]

I believe this is getting fixed in workout level 2 release.

[WindWarrior]

Back in November 2021 posted this:

played around with Birling -1 and saw these Workout Levels:

• 5.8 level for TR’s Birling -1 which has 4x30-sec sprints and each sprint is 225% FTP for 20 seconds, and then 10 seconds decreasing from 225% to 30%
• 5.9 level if I use WorkoutCreator to make a copy of Birling -1
• 56.3 level if I use WorkoutCreator to increase the intensity by 133% (taking the 225% portion up to 300%)

Visuals here:

Custom Workouts Get Progression Score - Very Cool

and on the other hand using WorkoutCreator to make a copy may give good results like simply making a copy. However PLs of sprint workouts in TR can be a little wacky because % FTP of the custom workout is taken into consideration: [image] even though the workout text states: [image] so if you create a custom workout and bump % FTP of a sprint to accurately reflect your % FTP, and its greater or less than (an equivalent) TR workout, you end up with a custom workout PL that is skewed relativ…

[NickL]

Workout creator does not seem to do well with sprints.

6x30s at 300% FTP, with 9:30 recoveries gives a workout level of 79 !

[Olly1]

Ah ok not me breaking TR at least.

I’d put in 240% then 290% for the respective sets so that tallies with those other %vs workout levels

[WindWarrior]

Likely you would see reasonable results making the 6x20s something like 175% or 225%, and same comment for 6x10s. You would need to look at a TR sprint workout with 20-sec sprints, and same for TR workout with 10-sec sprints. I’m assuming the rest of your custom workout is endurance somewhere between 65-75% because that’s essentially what you’ll see with a TR workout (you would need to look and confirm).