I’m no expert but it doesn’t seem to me that you need a ton of different variations of threshold and vo2 and sweet spot and tempo workouts. Its nice the TR has so many but I don’t not for training if you need THAT many.
The big benefit with TR is the plans and now AT and TrainNow.
I would have loved for TR and RGT to merge.
Yes the ones that show up are promoted as in have a certain amount of people. The site for the races, etc
Either way, I personally don’t think the war will be won based on the best graphics. The most important thing is going to be who can release the best features in the quickest timeframe. If Wahoo invest in enough new game devs and are able to do a good job of improving the social side of RGT and the scenery in magic roads etc. pretty soon, then I think you could start seeing quite a few jumping ship from Zwift in the near future.
The other question related to the game engine - if improved magic roads proves really popular and starts pulling subscribers from Zwift, are Zwift able to create something similar in response, or are they limited by their game engine? 
I totally agree, the only reason I brought up graphics is one of the recurring posts is “how much better the RGT graphics are than Zwift”, as a developer interested in graphics programming, I found RGT to be an assault on my senses , but totally agree, the use case for these products isn’t they they have real world emulation, for me, it’s about distraction and entertainment, and the winner is going to be the one that achieves this
Yeah totally, the game engine unity, would just be dealing with rendering of the images, shadows, reflection, maths, vector manipulations e.t.c, what is asked to be displayed is down to the programs engine, and in both cases in will be proprietary, magic roads is not part of unity, rgt programmed it, to work with unity, Zwift could pretty much do the same if they wanted to, and probably as quickly if they started today, they have a game engine, and it handles all the above, it probably used OpenGL which isn’t considered to be a game engine, but does a lot of the work, it’s just it’s more like adding 23.123 and 6784.1343 by hand rather than using a calculator
Just spotted this post, which shows this nicely:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/roadgrandtoursusers/permalink/4953713398027889/
One of the interesting things discussed in the last Zwiftcast was that Kickers currently come with a “works with Zwift” sticker and a free trial. That will go away and be replaced with free X trials. At the very least, that will mean a LOT of people who probably didn’t care or know about it will now at least sign up and give X a try.
If anything, this acquisition actually has done more to advertise RGT than anything else in the past few years…
Unless you want to ride with other people or do anything other than repeats of the same loop. I really don’t like their cornering animation either. It looks, to me, far more unnatural than Zwift’s.
I think it has assisted to cement that virtual cycling is a good means to an end and will assist Z and this genre of cycling to improve, albeit with a third player who can/may enter the market.
OK - I tried to do a workout today running TR and RGT side by side like I do with Zwift, but I could not get RGT to see my sensors. I also could not change the settings (Bluetooth/ANT on/off) or click anything as it just searched endlessly. I eventually had to escape out of the screen (couldn’t click out). I quit the app and went back in, but same issue. Is it not possible to run side by side?
Yeah, that was an interesting point…this was a likely a massive “onboarding portal” for Zwift over the years. However, I don’t think it will harm Zwift necessarily since I don’t think there are many new users to attract at this point, but it could well entice users to give RGT a try.
Saw this post with someone having the two working together:
Mine work swimmingly together. I run TR with Ant+ and RGT with bluetooth. Works with tacx neo. Basically the same setup as zwift.
Yep I also have no issues running TR and RGT together
Weird. No go for me. Well, that makes for an easy decision 
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
Are you trying to run them both on one device? My ancient laptop can’t cope with that (I think RGT uses all its resources). I have to run TR//kindle (Android side loaded) on my phone and RGT on the laptop.
Yeah, something sounds off there. I’d make sure to reset the device and confirm no other apps are open. Then try by starting RGT first, pair and move to TR. It could be an order of ops issue, or devices tagged to apps in one way or another.
Agree. Wahoo really should add a 6 months free with a purchase of a wahoo smart trainer. The more people that get on RGT and the more events they add it will make it more likely to be at least a viable alternative to Zwift.