The order of workouts for this phase is Endurance-VO2 Max-SS-TH. I would like to swap the TH and SS workouts, i.e., do TH on Thursday and SS on Saturday. I feel this order would suit me better, because TH is more taxing for me than SS (and even RL-GL apparently thinks so), and I may miss weekend workouts from time to time because of outdoor activities (e.g., ice-skating, XC or Alpine skiing if the weather is right). Based on my experience, Threshold is more important for progression, even though I strongly dislike Threshold workouts.
My questions:
What is the best way to do this inside TR? I would like to keep the exact workouts, so I keep the current plan and (hopefully) my progression and predicted outcome (TR predicts 265→282 FTP change next Tuesday ).
Can I do this somehow for all weeks of the phase at once? The Plan Builder only allows me to specify “Hard Intervals”, but not which exact type.
Is there a training-related reason the order is first SweetSpot, then Threshold? Is it better to keep the TR suggested order?
BTW the proposed change to 1.5 hr SS workout (from the originally planned 1 hr) also scares me bit - that’s going to be tough.
This answers 2) as well. I don’t think you should be concerned about 3). It all wraps around. Imagine your week started on Saturday. This way you have SS SS Thr once more. Your body doesn’t know the days of the week.
Go into every workout btwn now and your next detection date and pin them. Then you can move them at will.
Although it wasn’t shown, the “Hard Intervals” in plan builder have zones hidden beneath, so if you edit a phase and swap the Thursday and Saturday workouts, you’ll swap Threshold and Sweetspot.
I don’t think so. Plan Builder might get upset with you, though. I just tried this on my own plan and even though I just swapped two (of two) same-length workouts it warned me that my intense workouts might now be too close together, which seems silly.
90 minute sweetspot workouts are great. Carb up and crush it.
I reorder SS and TH pretty often it usually works fine as long as I keep at least a day of easy riding between them. If I have to stack them closer, I put the harder threshold session first and use sweet spot as the controlled follow up so I don’t dig a hole for the rest of the week.
Thanks everybody for the answers! (Shame I cannot tag multiple answers as “Solution”.) The information about the “hidden” workout type is most useful . That’s what I was looking for - and I could not find it anywhere. Much appreciated.
You’re welcome! Sorry I had an example with SS and not your VO2, but you got the idea. You can see all block templates here (web example): Training Plans → Training Phases → Base/Build/Specialty → Click the box that matches your plan goal and volume. That’s how you know the exact workout types in advance. Of course, you can just see them in your calendar when the plan’s already there, then edit and arrange them to your liking. You can keep editing as time goes on and you move to different training blocks. May the watts be with you!
Yep, that’s where I would go to if I selected the phases myself. However, I’m on a “Custom Training Plan”, which I created using the Plan Builder (MTB, goal: increasing FTP). In that case, I can only see the final plan in the calendar and cannot edit it on a phase-by-phase basis. (I.e. if I reorder the workouts as suggested, this also affects other phases, which specify different workout type order.)
A follow-up: Manually swapping these workouts, even when both are pinned, slightly changes the SS workout and decreases the FTP prediction on Tuesday from 282 W to 277 W
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. That’s what I was looking for - and I could not find it anywhere. Much appreciated.
