In a few weeks I’m done with my plan and need to make a new one. In general I have not seen much noticeable improvement to my fitness (don’t think that has happened with structured training last 3 years for me). I’ve been trying the “ftp builder” custom plan and also a road plan towards my event in …

[image] JanK: That’s why I think those longer efforts could help? Vo2 work will pretty much always help and AI should be determining the best version for you, specifically. That way you are more likely to consistently gain over time. There isn’t huge harm in changing the type for one workou…

This next training cycle are you trying to build 2-4 minute power or your FTP? Those are two different training programs…

The Road > General Fitness plan is pretty solid for building short effort capabilities. The Gravel > Group Ride plan is similar but with a little more balance in sustained work mid-way through the plan.. There are lots of options. Let me know more specifics of what you’re looking for (FTP increase…

Hi @eddie I haven’t had much luck with the FTP to increase, so was thinking something to improve my 2-4min power and repeatability. Feel free to come with some suggestions. If really bored maybe you can also see something in my history that I can’t to help improve. I’m fine with sharing everything…

The Road > Group Ride plan might be worth a shot for you. :+1: It might shake things up a bit and build on areas that you haven’t touched much in a while. :flexed_biceps:

Thanks for the suggestion. Can’t see any long 2-4min vo2max intervals in that plan? Closest I get is the climbing plan?

Two and four minute intervals are pretty different. :thinking: Whatever you’re looking at is simply a template and ins’t a perfect representation of the work you’ll be prescribed. That depends on your progress and Athlete Levels. For what you’re looking for, I’d say that’s the best plan, but if yo…

[image] eddie: The Road > Group Ride I did a month of it and liked it :+1: You can amend a workout from one style to another.

As I have understood it “traditional” vo2max go up to around 2 mins intervals max? And “long suprathreshold” beyond that? But I can’t find many plans with much of that work though. I just now I quickly blow up after 2 mins so that’s why I think I need it :sweat_smile: if there is no plan for it I t…

If you are focusing on improving 2-4 minute power you are going to be doing a lot of anaerobic and sprinting. VO2 and threshold are less important here. Is this a “side project” or is this something you want to improve in the bigger picture?

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