New Training Plan Difficulty

I was about 4-5 weeks into a training plan and all my workouts were in the 2.2 - 2.5 range which was good as I’m recovering for an injury. Yesterday I deleted this plan (was trying to see if I could edit the workout lengths on certain days) and started a new one with all the same selections (I think) and suddenly all my workouts are 4.0 or above! Any ideas why this would be? Could it be something to do with a planned event?

Also is there any way to sync your trainer road calendar to training peaks? Not the actual workout just a calendar entry so I don’t have to do it manually to have all my planned workouts in there?
Thanks

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Unless something has changed, there is no way to sync with Trainingpeaks. You can enter them manually, but that’s a huge pain.

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Hope this helps. I’m not 100% sure what you’re looking for, but I did this and my workouts from TR appear in Trainingpeaks automatically after I complete them.

It’s been asked for in the past, but TR has not implemented it. It would be awesome to just have the Name, TSS, and Time.

I’ve since switched to Intervals.icu and it does have these. Here’s this week, as an example.

Are those 4.0 workouts after any AT adaptations? It’s possible that it initially loads the default plan and then adapts it later (maybe after the first ramp test?). What are your progression levels? It’s possible that they’re correct but if they seem way off then maybe contact support and maybe they can force and adaptation from the back end if for some reason your plan didn’t trigger one.

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This is completely right, but only syncs completed workouts not your training plan. Better than nothing, but not ideal.

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Ahhh. I see your point. Just out of curiosity, what’s the advantage of being able to load the complete training plan onto TrainingPeaks? Not at all trying to be annoying, I’m just a relative newbie who wants to learn.

Hi thanks for your answer. Perhaps you are right about the ramp test - i didnt do one i just did a normal workout in place of it (SS 2.2) but it didnt trigger any adaptations. I might contact support and see what they say i think it would be too much of a stretch going from 2.25-2.5 way up to 4.0 workouts!

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Hi im not wanting the complete plan (not the workouts) just calendar entries with name, tss etc as training peaks compares your planned workouts vs completed.

A lot of coaches use TP. If you buy a workout plan, it will likely be linked to TP. TP is “the standard” for those of us who have been training and tracking for a long time. Being able to see the plan week to week to compare goals against progress, etc., is how we (or our coaches) have viewed our exercise activity for a very long time. The TR calendar is relatively new, and while it’s great, it doesn’t perfectly mimic TP. Some of us have switched to Intervals.icu for this, and i would argue intervals.icu is the better product, but a lot of coaches (and people who just like what they already know) still use TP.

I understand that TR doesn’t want to send the full workout details to a competitor (TP), but I don’t understand why they won’t just send workout name, TSS, and length, such as you see in my example above that they send to Intervals.icu. As a result, people have to manually enter the daily goals into TP rather than just pipe them over, which is a pain when you’re talking about a 6-8-12-16 week training block.

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Not annoying at all. The benefit would be to plan your season using TP to track your CTL/ATL/TSB. Personally, I find using TP far nicer than TR for planning - especially if you’re including running and swimming. So basically you could import TR cycling plan and then add other tri stuff with it and still get a good sense of where your training load will be in three months.

But if you’ve never really used TP, then it’s probably not a big deal.

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I actually have TP, and I am able to link TR to it so that it automatically links the data after each ride, so it does serve to track my CTL/TSS and such. The one thing I don’t think you can do is use TP to actually plan your calendar for use on TR, or at least I’m not aware of any provision to do so, so I wouldn’t know how to use outside training plans from a coach or the like.

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I’m thinking out loud here and maybe I’m wrong but I don’t think planning future TSS is going to work very well if you are using Adaptive Training. When you start a plan you’ll see projected TSS and workouts for each block but those workouts will likely change as you move through the plan. Since TSS may change based on your survey responses, planning future TSS become irrelevant. Maybe it can be a general target but if your feeling good and able to do more TSS or feeling tired so you do less TSS, that’s fine if you’re getting faster. I believe the philosophy from TR is AT is a coach so you don’t need to think about TSS.

If you’re not using AT, the you may want to plan future TSS but TR really wants you to use AT.

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That’s true but if the calendars synced properly they’d update and you could adjust your other workouts to compensate that

Sure, but with AT you can only compensate for the next scheduled workout because every other future workout might change and you can’t compensate for future workouts until you’re last one is completed. That last completed workout is pushed to TP so then you can make adjustments.

This has been a mental change that took me a bit to understand. I used to constantly look at all my upcoming workouts. Now I only look at the next workout because there’s no point in looking at future workouts that may change.

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Everyone is different. I like to see all my upcoming workouts one one calendar and even with adaptive training mine don’t change all that often. Usually only the Saturday one. My question was is it possible, not what the pro’s and con’s are.