New TR feature - FTP estimate - thoughts

I just did a ramp test. I did have AI FTP estimation enabled, but no estimate appeared. Sadly, dropped 5 watts, which seems to be usual for me this time of the year. I guess 3 weeks of VO2 Max intervals isn’t going to raise my FTP. Getting old is a b.

Were you on your Career page? That’s the only place to access the FTP Detection at the moment.

Didn’t show anywhere

And you have all the other settings right in the Early Access page of your TR account settings?

I had the early access enabled, but not adaptive training. I had been doing a semi polarized block with a progression of VO2 intervals.

Circling back to this thread and my reasons for starting the topic → Tainerroad has now said that they prefer everyone going through the progression levels instead of constantly adjusting their FTP. Also, they have increased the amount of time between FTP estimates to 40+ days.

This confirms my reasons for starting the topic. If you present people the option to constantly assess their FTP, they will prefer trying to up that number instead doing productive work if given the opportunity. :wink:

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  • This is more conditional than absolute. Discussion in the pending “Automatic” AIFTP Detection discussion as well as others mention times when stepping up FTP makes sense vs times when pushing further into Progression Levels should be the focus. It’s not a single answer and will vary with the individual, their selected discipline and phase within the broader training plan.
  • That is not correct. At present it’s 14 days and there have been mentions that it might push out to 28 days in the future. Much of that is covered in the thread mentioned above.
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Have a question regarding scheduling a ramp test to get a new AI estimate:
My last estimation was 6 weeks ago (24th may). I‘m now in speciality phase as my main A event is next sunday (17th july).
Adaptive training scheduled a ramp test after the race and an additional recovery week, which would be then 9 weeks after the last estimate (which seems long to me).
Is it wise to reestimate manually (putting a ramp test in)? Curiosity nags of course shortly in front of a race!
Thanks :blush:

I’ve tried doing ramp tests twice after doing a detection and the detection was just 1 or 2 watts off (too high) both of these times I hadn’t even ridden with a power meter for quite a while even (just heart rate)

If you look at the speciality plans there are no scheduled ramp tests during the 8 week block. I would not bump ftp right before an event. Do it afterwards when Plan Builder put it in.

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I’m not a coach, nor did I stay at a Holiday Inn last night, so take this for what it’s worth. TR has mentioned on podcasts that the speciality phase is all about specificity of the energy systems your going to use and getting ready for your event. It is not about boosting your ftp. This is the reason there is not ramp test scheduled during the 8 weeks from my understanding. And personally I wouldn’t want to use a new ftp during an event to set a pacing strategy. Then again I’m just a regular Joe and others might have different thoughts.