Per an email today:
And a largely worthless video released yesterday:
I’m making this forum topic for what I expect to be an embargo drop, maybe next week or shortly after.
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TR Outdoor Workout support? If not, close the thread now. 
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Looks like Stages forgot to lock down the User manual.
There’s both a photo:
And specs:
As far as form factor goes, look like they approximate ELEMNT ROAM and BOLT, respectively.
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Hmm interesting. Seems a bit of a miss for a new gen computer. The M200 is a not quite as good Bolt. I wonder what their differentiating features are from the current crop of bike computers.
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They look meh, and a clone of the Wahoo. Hopefully there is more behind the scenes, or this is an elaborate April xFool’s joke
Do Wahoo own Stages now?
Looks like they are available now…
https://stagescycling.com/en_us/product/gps-bike-computers/all
A couple of interesting things I see…
- Appears as they already have support for Garmin Varia (it would be a deal-killer if they didn’t)
- They dumped their proprietary mount and moved to a 1/4 turn mount (Garmin orientation)
- Looks like it is an in-app set-up similar to Wahoo
- “Analyze workout data in the app and sync with your favorite third party tools such as Strava, TrainingPeaks and Trainer Road” - I really hope that this means Outdoor workout support?
Pricing is decent ($279 - $329)…but no @dcrainmaker DC or @gpl yet. Not certain if that is the best sign since those guys usually have reviews posted on Day 1.
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The first gen had config by app, web, or on device. And they added radar support at some point in the past. I’ll take a look later.
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I have the original Dash. Love the bright screen. It has had Varia radar for over a year. You could configure on the device, web, or app. The web and device configuration work well but the app not so much. I have also had problems where if the web and device have different settings it is not clear which one has precedence. I have had setting changes wiped out then connecting the device. Hopefully the app will be improved. My understanding of the plan is to focus only on the app and device. I think because using Today’s Plan as the web interface is a problem since a lot of the things you want (courses, for example) were pay features on Today’s Plan. The original Dash does have navigation but no on device routing and rerouting. So, compared to the competition this is a big feature missing. With 16GB of storage you will probably be limited on the amount of maps you can load at one time.
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– Changes buttons from miserable to good
I’m interested…but gonna wait a bit for the added features to get added before I decide to plunk down my $$.
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The reason that I used the Dash was the the bright display made it a lot easier to read with my reading vision impaired eye. However, the Karoo 2 is equally readable and has a lot of other nice features.
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Fair point…the appeal for me is kinda simple. A decent-sized, bright, color screen without it being a touch screen. My Roam doesn’t have a lot of color used on it and the BoltV2 is too small for me.
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This is what I’m seeing/thinking. I don’t see anything at all about these computers that would make you choose it over the existing products…?
It’s like they’ve brought out a product to match the current gen products, but right as they are potentially on the way out/being superseded.
Colour screen brightness for easier visibility sounds good for certain users. But spec and feature wise they seem a few steps behind.
I realize stages has been in the game for a long time now, but garmin and wahoo pretty much own the head unit space. This costs roughly the same and seems to do pretty much the same…
Ill reserve judgement until some people have them in hand and can comment, but the initial reviews doesnt look like anything thats gonna convert anyone from garmin or wahoo.
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Moonshot if it completely died? LOL. Will be interesting to see if battery life gets better, not unusual to have additional logging enabled on pre-release and early post-release electronic devices.
Yeah, I’ll double-check with them. Like @gpl, my battery burn rates are too high at the moment. It was averaging 11.8%/hour on my ride a few days ago. Though, so was the Edge 830. No idea why it’s all crazy-town on this ride. Stages had navigation, Edge 830 didn’t - maybe backlight was set to max or somethign. The purpose of the ride wasn’t setup as a battery burn test though, it was basically an everything else test, including getting photos/video. Backlight was set to auto on a very dark day (rain storms/etc…).
Anyways, as noted, sometimes companies do leave logging on accidentally on earlier units (I’ve seen it with Garmin/Wahoo/others). So we’ll see.
Ride file for those curious: DC Rainmaker Analyzer
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I just cant help but feel like this is a Windows Phone…by itself, its pretty damn good, but when Iphone and Android already exist and own the market-share, its gonna be a very niche product.
I heard a ton about this the day it came out, and nothing since. Still never seen one in the flesh on the road or MTB
That said, love their power meters! 2 friends with stages bikes as well, nothing but great reviews from them!
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Stages big feature (for me anyways) was their algorithmically generated training designed to work in or outdoors on a stages bike computer. They seem to have completely ditched the workout generation/build features though as the Premium version of Stages Link can no longer be accessed (at least if you don’t have an existing subscription). Outside of signing up for TR or a TP training plan there no longer seems to be a way to get any kind of training done on the Stages Dash. for a bike computer “Designed for performance and training” this seems like an awkward place to be…
EDIT: For anyone that finds themselves confused by my comment - I had a Link premium account and let it lapse. I came back a few months later and the option to pay was gone. All features to create or use pre-existing STAGES workouts were gone.
EDIT 2: Solution - Upon creating a new account (completely fresh, new email) All the options for paying for Premium and designing or generating workouts are back.
Well the answer is YES! 
. With the new Stages Cycling App, you can connect your TR account to Stages Cycling and outdoor workouts appear in the app, and on your Stages Dash device. Confirmed to work for me on my Dash M50 unit. Successfully ridden a TR workout today and the completed workout uploaded to TR, and I got the progression level credits I deserved 
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There is even a “Push to Stages” button on the TR website when the link between Stages Cycling and TR is established.
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TR is now described as a workout source in the Stages Cycling Manual:
TrainerRoad
Connect TrainerRoad with the Stages Cycling app to:
Send completed activities
Receive workouts from TrainerRoad directly to your Dash
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