Picked one of these up last Saturday from my LBS. Works great in Zwift, cruising around, racing, etc, but my wife mainly uses TrainerRoad, (as I do also) and ERG will not work! It tries to work, but overshoots the targets when the power increases and when it decreases the power drops well below the prescribed wattage.
Its very new, just wondering if anyone else had one and has any issues? I have a ticket with them and have been doing the back and forth, but from them its just check this setting, check that setting…
Other than that, its built like a tank, its quieter than my heavy breathing… Oh and the Ipad/Phone holder is top notch. Lot of money, but we have multiple users, and swapping bikes daily and changing the axle adapter as we have different bikes was getting old.
That would be a big heavy flywheel in action. Same reason the Neo is abusive and the H3 is friendly. You need a big resistance engine to slow down that flywheel
Here is a screenshot of a short 4 min workout I did to send them. They asked for a .FIT file and a screenshot. Was trying to be as smooth as possible. When the power increases it goes way above, and when it decreases its like the resistance goes to zero and youre freewheeling for 5-10 seconds. I havnt heard back yet other than check your settings…
You can also see at the workout start it took a while to react.
From the blog it appears Erg is working when Dash is controlling. From your short test it appears some tweaking will be required to get it working with TrainerRoad.
The Stages gym bikes have worked well for me, and this bike looks interesting. Software for smart trainers and smart bikes always seems to take a awhile before its fully baked. Your feedback on the hardware is encouraging.
same, pretty much every review of every new training product has something that can be updated and improved. If I was the Stages PM my first priorities would be making Erg work well with my bike computers, and making sim mode work well with Zwift. From your 4-min test it appears to be a matter of improving Erg experience with TrainerRoad. And I’m guessing you could use standard/resistance mode with TrainerRoad, gotta believe that is supported in first release of the bike.
Jim from Stages here trying to find the forums and answer the questions you all have. We have tested TrainerRoad pretty extensively with Erg mode and expect it to work well. The behavior you are describing we think is due to the Power match feature, which we recommend you turn off any time you are using the StagesBike to do workouts;
The reasoning here is Power Match is designed to use your power meter to inform the trainer, but in the StagesBike case, we are already doing this. We use our power meter to inform our trainer to make sure Erg mode is super accurate. If TrainerRoad starts to try to do this at the same time as us, you will get a chasing effect where we both make a change to the resistance at the same time, doubling the effect, and then back and forth and back and forth, like a sin wave.
This is a bad experience! I can replicate this bad experience here by enabling power match, so I would suggest you disable it and try again. If you are still having a bad experience let me know. Im new to this forum so its not in my mind to always check it, but ill try!
My settings are just as you describe… I sent the .fit file, screen shots and my setup to your support. I have a ticket open. Your support sent me the same information. I haven’t heard back. Hoping my bike isn’t defective in some way, but starting to think it is. I will await their response.
I think were talking to each other through the CS team, let’s keep that conversation going, erg mode should certainly work so we should be able to get there.
For the racing - how did you find the shifting / responsiveness to be? Curious especially about sudden changes in pace / sprinting at the end of races - any experience there? Thanks!
iamholland - ERG works the same in zwift, overshoots both sides. My wife was using the brake to try and smooth it out when the power dropped as prescribed, but you shouldnt have too.
The shifting is as GPLama describes. The app isnt released yet to adjust the setup. Per stages it ships with a virtual 53/39 chainring and a 11-30 cassette. It dont quite feel like that to me; I have a hard time finding the right cadence and the jumps between gears seems bigger, but that may just be me.
I think it will get worked out, one of my reasons asking if anyone else had to was to see if mine was defective. Hoping there is a way to a factory reset or something. I’ve been sending them information, just waiting to see what they find. The first responses from service of electronic devices are always similar to “did you turn the power off and on” Lol. They have been responsive so far.
I am in Michigan where its finally not freezing so I have lots of patience. Hard to ride inside when I am 3 miles from a state park with a great MTB trail and hundreds of miles of dirt roads. haha. Sent them a FIT file and screenshots of here ride on zwift in ERG Saturday.
I look forward to GPLama and DCrainmakers reviews. Maybe I am missing something in the setup? Dont think so, its been set the way they recommend and Ive been using a smart trainers for years.
