You must be using the BETA version of the iOs app:
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Brilliant thanks Chadđđ˝
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Itâs quite tricky planning say a 3hr Endurance outdoor ride that counts for AT with TrainNow.
The reason I was looking to use a workout for an Endurance ride was to get it to count for AT.
Endurance recommendations only went to 150 mins for me, and they converted to 3â45" outdoor which I didnât have time for. It then became a process of trying to find an indoor workout with an outdoor equivalent of 3hrs. It was easier in the end to forget TN and just search workouts the old way - I used Boarstone in the end
It would be really good if we could search in TN for an outdoor ride duration, just as we do for indoor, and for time durations beyond what is offered for indoor. Then it will be easier to have outdoor rides matching TR workouts
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Or just match them all inside/outside which support acknowledged is the plan, just no eta yet.
Itâs well over a year after outdoor release and another outdoor season is coming up for many of us, so it would be great to just get an intern on this and crank out the work to get the rest of the workouts to align.
It is hard to find outdoor rides due to the time jumping for endurance rides when you a switch them to outdoor.
Another concern for me is The workouts donât reliably sync to my Garmin, I can setup an outside workout for tomorrow but thereâs a decent chance it wonât be on my Garmin when I need it. I wish we could download the.fit workout files ourselves or if it synced to TrainingPeaks I could download the .fit from there
Thereâs some logic in there for fatigue, but itâs not where we want it to be. We need more data to get a better fatigue profile for people.
IE you could still try to do 7 days of âattackingâ workouts. Please donât do that.
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That makes sense. I wouldnât even know where to start but I canât imagine it being easy without forcing users to buy lots of expensive additional (unnecessary) sensors.
I guess thereâs math to show a difference between someone failing due to ability vs failing due to fatigue? My brain hurts 
Oooo, did someone say buy new shiny things? 
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Just FYI for those following this TrainNow thread, it was confirmed on the main AT thread by TR that TrainNow is based on progression levels and those are indeed broken after any FTP adjustments (as I suspected above) and the fix is âin the pipeline.â
As of this AM, it still doesnât seem to be corrected based on the workouts Iâm seeing - so I would proceed with caution using TrainNow if you have any recent FTP adjustments in the past couple of weeks and limited # of workouts since.
Iâll say it again - it would probably be very helpful to have some sort of highly visible FAQ/sticky page managed by TR that covers FAQs and status on known bugs like this, esp. for items that are fully released to everyone during such a major high visibility rollout. These forum threads have a ton of inefficient circular repeat discussions and speculation.
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Checked TrainNow suggestions again this morning and once again couldnât get anything other than Bays for the 60â Endurance ride while the other two options refreshed - - including some of the new POL workouts in the Attacking section.
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Will my FTP be recalculated automatically if I only use the new TrainNow suggested workouts? Or will it tell me itâs time to do a ramp test? Or do I schedule ramp test manually, if so, how often? Iâm pretty sure the new AT feature will handle adjusting my FTP, but have to wait a bit for the release. Thanks!
Hey Tom,
TrainNow uses your current TrainerRoad FTP (whether this is from a Ramp Test, other test, or manually entered) and recent performance to suggest individual workouts that are suitable to your abilities in their respective Power Zones. It does not consider fatigue or periodization the way a training plan will, and wonât recommend FTP adjustments or Ramp Tests. Itâs meant as a way of choosing more individually-curated workouts for athletes who arenât on a plan or who want to supplement unstructured riding with occasional self-selected structured workouts.
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At the moment, AT doesnât change your FTP, nor does it suggest you do a Ramp Test. TR has said that âin the futureâ AT will suggest / modify your FTP, but that is a ways in the future.
Right now, if you think your FTP has changed, you can either change it manually, or manually elect to do a ramp test
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But be aware it will wipe out your entire workout history from consideration in trainnow recommendations. Youâll get default untrained suggestions until a fix is completed. So far, looks like itâs still pending.
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sweet spot by definition is tempo. Itâs hard tempo, but itâs tempo.
The fix for this issue should be in place, so any athletes still experiencing this should check in with support@trainerroad.com so we can take a closer look. 
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First TN workout today via Baxter and all good. My schedule with work travel is a little inconsistent at best. Usually on a plan but this works for now
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This feature will be nice once itâs tied into the AT achievable/stretch/breakthrough etc but for now at least for me it seems like a random workout generator, as if I just picked them at random out of a hat. I had it give me one for âattacking 60 minutesâ at a .99IF and the next one was .87
It totally is! We are applying a/s/b logic for everyone with TrainNow, the âAchievable / Stretch / Breakthroughâ visibility just isnât available for everyone yet. If youâre seeing super hard workouts, itâs likely you have a very high relative progression level and vice versa.
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appreciate the morale boost even if it was unintentional, but some of those look impossible. Maybe itâs just cause I canât see their numerical rating, however thatâs going to work if itâs a 1-10 scale or something else
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