@mailman@FergusYL I agree with your option B in that you get adaptations from a 4 hour ride you won’t get from a 2 hour ride. Again, the same source of the EC podcast.
Plus, for the last couple of years, my “4 hour” rides have been more like 3 hours and whilst I can still do big rides 6, 7, 8 hours when needed, they just don’t feel as good. And it feels more than just my power/time to exhaustion/ repeatability on climbs dropping off an hour earlier.
And there’s a lot to be said for getting used to being in the saddle for extended time periods. Nagging discomfort, saddle, shoulders, back, neck, hands, all creeps up more on a 4hr+ ride than anything on a 2hr ride.
In the absence of being able to increase my overall volume I am absolutely going to ensure one weekend ride of 4 hours this winter.
I don’t seem to be getting the Set Training Day Preferences screen, I only get the old Chose Training Days screen. with no way to change daily duration.
I’ve been using TR for several years now. In that time I’ve seen the stock plans switch back and forth between sweet spot/endurance for the Sunday rides (in mid volume plans anyway, which is all I’ve ever donej.
I probably responded slightly better to the endurance rides than the sweet spot, but there’s not been that much difference really.
Hey Sean.
Do you know if there are still bugs that are being ironed out? My plan updated today and there seem to be to many recovery weeks. I.e. Just coming of a recovery week but now plan looks like:
1 on
Recovery
2 on
Recovery
3 on
2 week taper into event
1 recovery week.
Also, there is no speciality.
Then into more base wich I get, next event in june.
Support is suggesting I delete the plan and start over but this isn’t really confidence inspiring…
Hey Jonas! Since the new base phases are 3x 4 weeks rather than 2x 6 weeks, it means a full 12-week base phase intentionally includes an additional week of recovery, which explains the extra recovery week you’re seeing in your plan. Our biggest priority in updating existing plans was to make sure no one loses a rest week and goes extra long without recovery during Base. The schedule of your build and specialty phases should not change from your existing plan, but if for some reason yours did, I’d recommend following support’s advice—it should ensure you’re seeing your plan updated with the newest settings and most up-to-date structure.
Our biggest priority in updating existing plans was to make sure no one loses a rest week and goes extra long without recovery during Base.
This is exactly what happened to my plan. It left me with two extra long blocks. I moved a recovery week to give me a week of recovery before a 5 week block for what is essentially Base 3. It isn’t ideal.
Great to be able to adapt the workout duration, but bit strange that it’s limited to only 2 hours. Not asking for a 2+ hr threshold workout, but for endurance workouts it would be great to go beyond that without having to select an alternate each time. Or am I missing something?
Will the Masters Plan affect AI FTP changes? Since we’re now doing only two hard sessions per week, and the rest Z2, how will the algorithm calculate FTP? I’m assuming, at a minimum, any increases would be in smaller increments? If I complete both hard sessions but only one endurance w/o (if on the HV plan), will my FTP adjustments be lower than if I completed all five Z2 workouts? Thanks!
Just to update, I did a rebuild of my plan to try to better account for the commute - the bugs I had around day 2 of a block seem to be fixed.
I’m giving the Masters Plan a go in the run up to my end of March “A” event anyway. There’s a couple of days a week commuting and a generally easy-ish (but unstructured) weekend club or gravel spin. I definitely felt the fatigue trying to fit in the 3 workouts plus the unstructured work, so interested to see the results.
A plan doesn’t raise your FTP. The work you do and your ability to recover from work do.
So if you nail 100% a Masters plan but struggle to complete with consistency a general base or build plan, my guess is that your FTP will be higher on the former. Doesn’t matter if it’s AIFTP or tested FTP.
The converse is likely also true. If you can handle with consistency the general plans and fully recover, your FTP will likely be higher at the end.
Seems perfect for my needs and just dropped at the right time.
Age 52 and 10 weeks past knee surgery due to lack of Cartlidge in the middle and prior to surgery lost all my fitness from being a slob and just had enough of being broken and training in general.
So will be using these plans for Aquabikes as running is no longer possible and running is shit anyway
