Now you are just talking crazy
1 Like
Man! Hope to get mine sooner rather than later. A little closeup inspection of my speedplay pedals tonight revealed that one is about to expire. Iâd hate to buy a new pair only to finally get my IQ2 pedals shortly after.
-Hugh
my blog: ex-prosays.blogspot.com
I guess we have progressed from the âshipping next monthâ phase to the âshipping in a few weeksâ phase. Each of those phases typically last 2-3 months. The next one is âshipping next weekâ, and it has a typical duration of 4-6 weeks.
3 Likes
It takes much longer to create an elephant from scratch than a human. So perhaps this product is closer to an elephant. A white one, presumably.
5 Likes
I see in the latest update that they used Chris Hamiltonâs Sunweb bike. Maybe he knows more? 
Hopefuly they will ship pedals on end of October if I understood well. But if no, on 13th of november - on my 40-th birthday, I´ll buy Assiomas, as I don´t want to sabotage my indoor winter preparation, as last year. Yes I´m also frustrated from waiting too much, but give them this last little chanceâŚ
Keithâs videos are very compelling, and with that, the advice to look elsewhere for pedal-based power meters rings very true.
1 Like
Another update, another (not surprising) delay. The layers of the onion are slowly getting peeled away but each new one presents a new challenge. Still progress appears to be being made, just slowly. Maybe by year-end.
4 Likes
Interesting, the IQ2 app is now up in the Google Play Store. Donât no if it is up for iOS yet.
âOur plastic pedal parts needed a minor adaptation. This means that the plastic injection molds (made of steel) that create these parts need to be modified. We have successfully done so and this adaptation will give us a two-week delay.â
Youâre modifying molds and parts, youâre not in production. Youâre in pre-prod at best. The big green Start button only gets pressed when the bill of material is stable, the vendors are qualified, the production process is tried and tested, the production testing methodology is qualified, and the material for the first production builds has been pulled and inspected. Calling a build where parts are being modified and changed, vendors changed, design validation testing done, PCBs âadjustedâ and parts arrival dates still defined anything close to âproductionâ is stretching reality quite a bit.
6 Likes
Does anyone know what sort of regulatory certs products such as these require? I assume CE mark for sure, FCC as well, UL, what else? The obvious next question is - have they filed yet? The still-playing-with-the-antenna part with respect to FCC certs is a bit interesting.
1 Like
Itâs been a while since I had to do product certification but CE is easy, it is a self-certification, basically a statement that you comply with all the directives. UL is the most difficult to deal with because they make money on component certification so they want every single piece of the product UL certified. Ther are many other marks that are equivalent CSA, ETL etc that are acceptable and equivalent that are faster an cheaper to get. A couple of weeks usually vs a few months for UL. FCC may not be all that difficult if they are using known commercial products and BT and ANT are low power and may fall into a less stringent category. Again probably not all that difficult or lengthy to get. If anyone has their packaging from another PM, especially pedals like Assiomas, check it to see what certifications are listed.
1 Like
As far as I know FCC requires a scan - DCRainmaker posted something about the Garmin filing for Vectors way back when, it included their test jig.
4iiii docs show they have FCC Class B for their powermeters.
And yes, we do CSA to avoid UL.
I was doing laser and electrical so I never had to deal with FCC certification, so not all that familar. I could ask at work but we deal with much higher power stuff and frequencies. I am assuming off the shelf BTLE and ANT is almost a rubber stamp since it is such low power. CSA was such a breeze compared to dealing with UL. We only did UL because thatâs what our main US ustomers were used to and didnât understand that they are all the same.
I just looked at Faveroâs owner manual and see they list CE and FCC under certifications (along with BT and ANT which donât have any bearing on legally being able to sell). A safety mark isnât needed for North American markets. EN14781 is testing methods for âracing bicyclesâ and presumably covers the safety aspect of the pedal. EN60950 covers mains or battery powered information technology equipment, so nearly any electronic device
Off-topic: Are you guys building the new Death Star?
I am hoping these pedals will be released by February or so, I am thinking about getting a power meter in the spring. For now I am thinking of getting a 4iiii
2 Likes
Get a tried and tested powermeter and enjoy months of use - who knows when these will come and if theyâll be usable.
3 Likes
Iâm still hoping for mtb spd pedals, by the time they arrive I might have the gravel bike for them!
4 Likes
Nothing that cool. I work in telecommunications development. Back then it was fiber optics, today I am in 5G cellular.
1 Like
At this point, as a backer, I am confident they will produce a product. Only time will tell if is accurate, reliable and durable. Itâs a risk-reward proposition since they were significantly less than established brands. I only backed them for the price as I really had no intention of buying a power meter. If one is looking to get a Garmin or Favero level of confidence then a KS/IGG project isnât the way to go
3 Likes
Donât think Iâd put Garmin 
and Favero 
in the same sentence when discussing confidence and quality. 
3 Likes