Yes on my sprint Tri plan Baird -1 is showing no alternatives which seems a bug for a very standard v02 workout. Have notified support.
The problem seems to be with all of the Tri plans across base, build and specialty.
Actually, I like the way it works currently, and I believe itās been designed to operate in that manner⦠(ie. not a bug!).
Why? I believe the ordering is intending to present the workouts to you based on their āproximityā to your current ability (your PL).
So: workouts with Levels >= to your PL (ie. those with Difficulties: Productive, Stretch, Breakthrough) are presented in ascending order of PL, while those with Levels below your PL (Difficulty: Achievable) are presented in descending order of PL.
Functionally, this makes sense, as the workouts that are most suitable for you (ie. having Levels nearer to your PL) display first and require the least (or no) amount of scrolling to discover.
Is this a known issue @IvyAudrain
That is because Ohio sucks and the only alternative is to move out of the state.
Hahahaha. Being in the uk I wouldnāt know.
Datde +2 doesnāt even have the Alternative tab available.
Iāve gone through the full distance triathlon LV plan and all three (base, build, specialty) has many workouts either missing alternatives altogether or doesnāt have any Achievable or Productive alternatives.
Iām just about to start this plan using the plan builder and as a 56 year old i would be grateful if the workouts could be fixed as Iāll definitely be looking for easier alternative versions of the workouts.
Hi, George. Happy to help clarify, those workouts and Workout Alternates arenāt necessarily ābrokenā, its just that not every workout has an Alternate always available!
There are two reasons this can happen. Workout Alternates always have the same workout profile and difficulty as your original workout. Some workout profiles include many workouts, while other profiles donāt have as many. If there are no other workouts of the appropriate difficulty level and duration available for Workout Alternates to choose from within a workout profile, no results will be shown.
The second reason: Workout Alternates reference an athleteās progression levels when determining which workouts to suggest. Suggested workouts are within the same Difficulty level as the original workout, but suggestions are never shown in the āNot Recommendedā range. If the original workout is āNot Recommendedā it will thus have no alternates available.
Let us know if you have any questions about that, but hopefully that provides some context and clarification. More info here under āFAQā: https://support.trainerroad.com/hc/en-us/articles/4402284012571-How-to-use-Workout-Alternates
Oh well, looks like the new AT isnāt suitable as a Masters (over 50ās) training plan after all (Iām56). I know all us oldies were hoping it would be.
As Iāve only recently resubscribed for the year thatās a real disappointment. If Iād only known this sooner I wouldnāt have joined for another year.
If you re-subbed very recently and really want to leave TR, I think itās worth an email to support to ask for cancellation and a refund. They seem pretty open to things like that from what I have seen in the past.
Iāll do that thanks Chad.
Updateā¦
Refund request sent
Just curious, have you even tried the workouts to see how you get along with them?
Dade+2 has heaps of alternate workouts.
Itās possibly a bug of the display rather than not having alternates anywhere?
Also, as Hub said, have you started the plan? Iād suspect those workouts will adapt down. Dade+2 is a 7.0 VO2max. Thatās pretty high!
Yeah I see stacks both above and below itās PL.
As you say itās 7.0, which is āstretchā for me, I see a load below down to 4.8 at 75 mins and 3.5 if I drop it to 60 mins.
Looks like they fixed it after I brought it to their attention.
Iāve got a slight annoyance with Alternates.
If you chose an Alternate then you have to āreplaceā the workout in the calendar before you can then āLoad Workoutā. However, if you do this, it obviously deletes the original workout which was in there which also updates the target time/TSS for the day/week. I like to be able to see the original weekly target and then if I increase that, I can see that I went above/beyond the intended time/stress.
It would be nice if you could just āLoad Workoutā direct from the Alternate function. ![]()
Iāve asked for this via a feature request.
if I use an alternate, do I have to delete the original workout from my plan?
The original workout will be replaced by the alternate you chose.