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It sounded like they were going to expose that to everyone soon. No idea when though.

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Not yet. Workout progression levels are on the way, and last week on the podcast Nate mentioned they may release this week as the first part of their stepped release of AT. Yesterday they had an Azure outage (cloud crashed), and it did some wonky things with their platform, even for those without the AT beta. Hopefully pretty soon everyone will have access to those levels, though. It sounds like they’re close to getting that out, barring any crazy problems, bugs or issues like that Azure outage yesterday.

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Not yet, but they were targeting this week for the workout levels. (In the meantime, I’m happy to take screenshots! :slight_smile: )

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We’re adding this.

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It’s the week of March 15th now :smiley:. We released too quickly and had a bug, and rolled it back and are fixing it now.

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We’re trying to launch workout levels this week to everyone. :tada:

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Awesome. Thanks Nate!

A bit confused I found a post that referred to a public link and running on tvOS. Is the public link also by invitation and will TR run on Apple TV?

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I love the ramp test but it grossly overestimates my FTP. Let me put AT to the test!!

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The same here… this is so hard - like telling to a kid that Christmass tree with presents is ready, but you can´t enter the room…and not till the end of January, but till… some moment in the future… uaaaagh :tired_face: :sob: :grinning:

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At the risk of asking a question that someone has already asked, but does (or will…) AT recognise modified standard workouts from the library in its progression levels etc?

I have started to add warmup and cooldown to workouts from the library in the workout creator and put them into my SSBMV2 plan. Eg. In replace of the standard 1hr Mills workout, I have a Mills workout that is 1hr 30m with additional warmup at the start and cooldown at the end.

When I get into AT…will it recognise these in terms of progression or am I going to be running into problems?

Are you using the TR Workout Creator to do this? If so, it would count as a custom TR workout. I can’t remember if custom workouts are supported yet, but the plan is for them to be counted in progression levels. So soft yes on that it will work.

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Thanks @BCrossen - yes, these modifications have been made to existing workouts using the TR Workout Creator - fingers crossed!

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Machine Learning Win?

I’m not on the beta yet but if I understand correctly, the train now feature can recommend workouts that are appropriate for your level. I don’t know how much of this is circumstantial vs an actual super good prediction. Either way, I’m on my last week of SSB2LV. From past experience doing this same plan and also from how I’ve been feeling, I’m thinking this morning there is no way I’m going to be able to do Lamarck at 100%. I failed Monday’s Spencer+2 after a couple intervals at 97% then a 3rd at 93% and after that I was toast and bailed early. (Possible I just wasn’t having a great day but also tried Mary Austin only 2 days prior so maybe recovery wasn’t great yet as well.)

So anyway, in light of all the plans going to change anyway, I’m thinking I ditch Lamarck and just do a threshold workout from the Train now feature. I had extra time today so I chose a 90 minute instead of 60 minute activity and it recommended North Guard. So it looked a bit intimidating but as I looked at it, this activity actually matches my failure pattern on activities that I fail. I start out strong but can’t maintain an over FTP level for those 8-10 minute blocks like you find in Lamarck, Leconte etc. I had a real hard time with Darwin last week and did finish it but had to take a break in the middle of the last two intervals. But this activity starts out at 109%, then you get a break, then longer at 106%, then break, and finally 5 minutes at 103%.

Well I did all 5 intervals at 100% and felt great. Machine Learning win or just coincidence I don’t know. I’m hoping its the former and that when the AT plans come out I’ll be able to feel this way after every ride. Before I’m struggling through the plan questioning my life choices and after today I’m all pumped and ready for more. (And I think that translates to better retention for subscribers for the TR gang.)

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No shame here at all. That workout is sincerely brutal and difficult. I’ve only ever completed it as prescribed once and I failed the next workout (Lamarck) as a result. Regardless, awesome workout find in North Guard, and way to knock it out!

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It will. I believe that is in testing now.

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Thanks @Nate_Pearson great to hear! I will keep modifying to make things work for me and look forward to using AT when it arrives :grinning:

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What percentage of people that signed up for AT are currently in? I feel like I might be a good candidate to give it a try.

I’m mega frustrated with trainerroad at the moment. I started indoor training with high volume in November 12th with an FTP of 209. Barely missing a workout with sweet spot I measured 229 in on January 6th. Following this the build felt brutal and I switched to mid volume. I failed workouts and tried setting them 5% and 10% lower but kept on with the plan. Eventually I had to take two weeks off (burnt out) and after a week back training my latest ramp test gave me an FTP of 205. Really hurts to think all the time on the trainer got me absolutely nowhere in my fitness. I realise I should have just retested my FTP sooner but that’s now in the past. Any recommendations?

We recommend you start with the low volume plan. High volume plan would be for if you’ve already done the low and mid plans or can do 1000 TSS weeks with intensity and not have it be a problem.

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Don’t discount other gains that aren’t quantified by FTP. While that singular metric may go up and down, you are also gaining the ability to punch harder more often and also the fitness to ride longer at higher sustained power. FTP doesn’t necessarily capture all of that.

Follow Nate’s advice and use low volume. You can always add in more volume later. Just be sure to take notes and track how your body is responding when you add more things into the mix.

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